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Axlin16
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Re: Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

Axlin16 wrote:
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Actually retelling the events of the original film to me, proved it was a retcon Part 12, that simply ignored Parts 2-11 ever happened.

It's not like it hasn't been done before. Halloween H2O & Halloween: Resurrection totally ignored Parts 3-6 in an effort to bring it to a new generation.

Oh and about Steve "lame ass" Jablonsky's score being better than Harry Manfredini's originals. I couldn't disagree more and to a highest level possible.

tejastech08
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Re: Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

tejastech08 wrote:

Steve Jablonsky is indeed a lame ass. He ripped off Zimmer's Batman Begins themes in his Transformers score. But then again Zimmer allows his proteges to rip him off, which I guess makes him a lame ass too.

Bono
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Re: Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

Bono wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:
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Actually retelling the events of the original film to me, proved it was a retcon Part 12, that simply ignored Parts 2-11 ever happened.

It's not like it hasn't been done before. Halloween H2O & Halloween: Resurrection totally ignored Parts 3-6 in an effort to bring it to a new generation.

Oh and about Steve "lame ass" Jablonsky's score being better than Harry Manfredini's originals. I couldn't disagree more and to a highest level possible.

Dude there's no way this is a part 12. It could be a part 2 though sure. It's not a reboot of the original Friday the 13th but it is a reboot of the Jason character.

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Him wearing the potato sack and finding a goalie mask makes that clear as day.

The reality is Friday the 13th is Jason. There's no market anymore for a Friday the 13th that doesn't feature Jason.  The back story at the begining is there so people new to the franchise know why Jason is like this. It makes sense to have it in there. It tells everything you need to know about the orgins of Jason yet we don't have to sit through a  Jasonless movie which honestly doesn't appeal to anyone other than hardcore horror movie buffs.  People are in love with the character of Jason not his mom. If you think it's a sequel to the original I buy that and sure  it's part 2 but it's definately not just another movie in the series.

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It starts Jason's character fresh,  thus making it an obvious reboot. Unless of course we're to believe he just lost his mask and dawned a new potato sack only to find a new mask and use that isntead. Not likley man.

As for the music to each their own but for me I was thanking God that it didn't have the god awful music of the 80's. The "eek! eek! eek! sounds and crap.  this new version has a score that won't sound dated 25 years from now. You can't say that for the F13 movies of the 80's. I don't care who scored it or who it's a ripoff of I just know it worked.

Axlin16
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Re: Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

Axlin16 wrote:

Ah, I see what your saying. But I think what you're forgetting is, only Parts 1-8 had a connective storyline. Jason Goes To Hell seemed to be it's own thing, so was Jason X, and Freddy vs. Jason acknowledged Freddy's Dead, but seemed to ignore JGTH.

It's a Part 12, that's a new Part 2. What I mean by that is, is that like with Halloween H2O. The producers and writers actually approached the production on that film as this will be 'the real' Halloween III. Acknowledging only I & II, and picking up the story 20 years later.

Despite F132009 being a 12th-installment, I think that's what they were going for. It's a Part 12, that's a new Part 2.

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They even mentioned, June 13, 1980, then fast-forwarded to the present day, i'm assuming February 13, 2009, 29 years later. The potato sack I think also backs this up. It was kind of cool of them to do that, but I think ultimately leaves it a bit topsy-turvy. Jason would be like a retired geezer chasing down campers at this point. Whitney (Amanda Righetti) is basically Ginny, except with an altered setup. But the end result is the same, they just incorporated some elements from Part 4 in there.

Von
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Re: Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

Von wrote:

Friday the 13th was the nation's bloody Valentine in what's shaping up as not only the busiest President's Day weekend ever but the biggest February weekend on record, no matter how one slices it. Propelled by the slasher remake and hearty holdovers like He's Just Not That Into You and Taken, overall business spurted up nearly 40 percent over the same weekend last year to a bustling $193 million.

With a smashing estimated $42.2 million on approximately 4,000 screens at 3,105 sites, Friday the 13th skewered the starts of its franchise predecessors, nearly doubling the opening attendance of the series at its peak, and it handily out-grossed the debut of Halloween (2007). It also delivered the top-grossing opening for a horror remake and for a slasher movie and is on course for the second highest President's Day weekend debut ever behind Ghost Rider. Adjusted for ticket price inflation, though, Scream 2, Scream 3 and Freddy Vs. Jason had higher initial attendance, and, unadjusted for inflation, there have been bigger horror openings, including I Am Legend, Signs and The Village.

Horror remakes have been gushing at the box office since the remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre in 2003. Resurrecting these brands has been a quick and easy way for producers to generate revenue, as they don't require much creativity and they have a built-in audience, from adults who remember the scares from their youth to the youths who have been raised on the legend of these supposedly scary movies. Indeed, Friday the 13th's opening day alone on Friday the 13th matched the picture's production budget with a $19.4 million haul. Many more horror remakes are in the works, including A Nightmare on Elm Street.

Friday the 13th was marketed as the event of all slasher movies and ads promised a rollercoaster rush. Horror can appeal to both genders equally, making Friday the 13th more of a date movie in many circles than He's Just Not That Into You or Confessions of a Shopaholic, which each heavily skewed female. Distributor Warner Bros.' exit polling bore this out, showing an audience composition of 51 percent male and 59 percent 25 years and older.

-Box Office Mojo-

This is outstanding. The four day weekend will only add icing to this already colossal achievement. Box Office Mojo's ticket price inflation has long been mooted by industry insiders to be skewed and up its own ass, so pay little attention to that (no way the six years in between this and Freddy vs. Jason accounts for a more than $10 million attendance discrepancy). Still, if you're a horror fan and you haven't seen this movie yet, go see it. Don't wait for rental. Support it in theaters because that's where it counts. Our genre can make a badass comeback if we let it. I will be seeing this movie again in theaters. There's going to be a sharp second weekend drop, as per usual for a horror flick, but that doesn't mean we can't push this past the $100 million milestone that no other true slasher (Scream notwithstanding) has accomplished. If the studio were smart, which generally speaking they're not, they'd let this play out as usual and then through a huge marketing push and bump up the theater count behind next month's Friday, March 13. That's like two tailor made weekends for the price of one.

Also opening next Friday the 13th is The Last House on the Left remake, which you may have seen already being discussed in the main GN'R section. We'll be covering that here soon enough.

Bono
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Re: Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

Bono wrote:

The success of Friday the 13th and the boxoffice in general really makes you wonder how much the economy comes into play. I can't help but think the weekend success of Friday the 13th puts a damper on the thought process that the economy hurt CD sales.

Von
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Re: Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

Von wrote:

People look for easy escapism in tough times. Movies provide that. That's why I think 2009 has been a banner year so far. CD sales were hurt by the collapse of the music industry, an exclusivity deal that hampered its availabilty and alienated a large chunk of its potential fanbase, and the lack of any promotion on the parts of either the band, the label, or the store holding the exclusive.

Bono
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Re: Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

Bono wrote:
Von wrote:

People look for easy escapism in tough times. Movies provide that. That's why I think 2009 has been a banner year so far. CD sales were hurt by the collapse of the music industry, an exclusivity deal that hampered its availabilty and alienated a large chunk of its potential fanbase, and the lack of any promotion on the parts of either the band, the label, or the store holding the exclusive.

Yeah I get that but there were alot of people who said the bad economy played a big part. This I think proves otherwise. Anyways I don't mean to turn a F13 thread into a CD thread. It was just something that popped into my head whe I read about how well this movie is doing at the boxoffice along with other movies a the moment.

Von
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Re: Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

Von wrote:

Oh no, and I completely agree with you. I just wanted to support what you said by throwing my own two cents in. 5

tejastech08
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Re: Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

tejastech08 wrote:

Von, BOM's ticket price inflation estimates are better than nominal dollar estimates. Adjusting for inflation essentially makes the comparison come down to ticket sales, which is the most accurate reflection of a film's popularity. The movie industry wants to hide the fact that actual ticket sales have been going down over the years, so they hide it by having ticket prices go up every year and report that every new movie around the block is breaking some kind of record, even though the comparisons are in nominal dollars rather than actual tickets sold. The music industry doesn't hide its album or song unit sales by only announcing the dollar amount instead of the unit amount. Only the movie industry does this and it's because the industry is going downhill from what it was decades ago.

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