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NY Giants82
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Re: 2008 NFL season

NY Giants82 wrote:

Well Brady is in another league entirely. Easily one of the best QBs of all time.

I dont want anyone to think this is sour grapes or anything since the Eagles just knocked by Giants out of the playoffs, but I've never thought McNabb was that great of a QB. Good? Yes. Make occasional highlight plays? Yes. But I've never thought with the game on the line, I can depend on him to take my team down the field. That is the trait of a great QB, and I dont see that in McNabb. His legacy as of now, will be throwing up in the Super Bowl with the game on the line.

Neemo
 Rep: 485 

Re: 2008 NFL season

Neemo wrote:

geez the pats front office is getting raided again

Boston, MA (Sports Network) - The Kansas City Chiefs have hired Patriots vice-president of player personnel Scott Pioli to replace Carl Peterson, who resigned a few weeks ago after serving as the team's president, general manager and CEO since 1989.

According to the Boston Globe, New England's director of player personnel, Nick Caserio, would replace Pioli.

"We are very excited to welcome Scott to the Chiefs," team chairman Clark Hunt said. "With his proven track record of success, Scott is the finest player personnel executive in the NFL, and we look forward to his leadership in building a championship organization."

During his time in New England, Pioli helped guide the Patriots to three Super Bowl titles and six division championships. He will inherit a Chiefs club that went a franchise-worst 2-14 in 2008 and holds the third overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft.

Pioli has served in various roles with the Browns (1992-95), Ravens (1996), Jets (1997-2000) and Patriots (2001-2008). He has also coached in the college ranks with Syracuse (1988-89) and Murray State (1990-91).

Pioli has won executive of the year awards from different media outlets following the 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2007 seasons.

Communist China
 Rep: 130 

Re: 2008 NFL season

Well you have to take from the best I guess. Every time Patriots players, coaches, or front office people leave it just makes Belicheck look smarter when they continue to be world class and the Browns and Fighting Irish continue to be mediocre.

Bono
 Rep: 386 

Re: 2008 NFL season

Bono wrote:
Neemo wrote:

^so what....all of tom brady's rings came without a top tier receiver at his disposal, some quarterbacks bring those around them to a higher level....others need someone to help them get there

I'm just saying. he didn't actually have a  top tier reciever when they went to the Super Bowl. This has nothng to do with Tom Brady who is the fucking man. Comparing anyone today to Tom Brady is totally unfair to the other guy. 16

Bono
 Rep: 386 

Re: 2008 NFL season

Bono wrote:
NY Giants82 wrote:

Well Brady is in another league entirely. Easily one of the best QBs of all time.

I dont want anyone to think this is sour grapes or anything since the Eagles just knocked by Giants out of the playoffs, but I've never thought McNabb was that great of a QB. Good? Yes. Make occasional highlight plays? Yes. But I've never thought with the game on the line, I can depend on him to take my team down the field. That is the trait of a great QB, and I dont see that in McNabb. His legacy as of now, will be throwing up in the Super Bowl with the game on the line.

That's pretty much what Terrell Owens said. Game on the line in the Super Bowl and McNabb is puking in the huddles and gasping for air. Outta shape?  Nerves? Whatever it was McNabb didn't clutch up when it mattered most.

Neemo
 Rep: 485 

Re: 2008 NFL season

Neemo wrote:

dont forget that TO demands a certain percentage of passes whenever he plays....that whole thing was weird that year...the birds were rolling without TO then he decides to play for the SB and everythign fell apart

Neemo
 Rep: 485 

Re: 2008 NFL season

Neemo wrote:
Bono wrote:
Neemo wrote:

^so what....all of tom brady's rings came without a top tier receiver at his disposal, some quarterbacks bring those around them to a higher level....others need someone to help them get there

I'm just saying. he didn't actually have a  top tier reciever when they went to the Super Bowl. This has nothng to do with Tom Brady who is the fucking man. Comparing anyone today to Tom Brady is totally unfair to the other guy. 16

a few years ago everyone was saying that Brady was average..he was no peyton manning...etc etc

mitchejw
 Rep: 131 

Re: 2008 NFL season

mitchejw wrote:
Neemo wrote:
Bono wrote:
Neemo wrote:

^so what....all of tom brady's rings came without a top tier receiver at his disposal, some quarterbacks bring those around them to a higher level....others need someone to help them get there

I'm just saying. he didn't actually have a  top tier reciever when they went to the Super Bowl. This has nothng to do with Tom Brady who is the fucking man. Comparing anyone today to Tom Brady is totally unfair to the other guy. 16

a few years ago everyone was saying that Brady was average..he was no peyton manning...etc etc

I don't recall that...I think ever since he came in to replace Drew Beldsoe, I think everyone was in agreement in the thought that they were seeing something special.

Neemo
 Rep: 485 

Re: 2008 NFL season

Neemo wrote:

well i think that anything after having bledsoe would be considered something special 16

but yeah i just remember people saying that the pats were a bunch of good players but nobody great, and that Brady was just in the right system, but he wasnt anythign special..etc etc

Communist China
 Rep: 130 

Re: 2008 NFL season

Brady did land in the right system and would've never become such a great player if he had been drafted by the Bills or someone like that, he had good enough coaching and good enough players around him to improve while winning - which is ideal. Cassel's success is proof of how strong the New England 'system' is.

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