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Re: Warner Music Group Pulls Music From YouTube
i can see youtube being a pay site in the future...at the very least i think there will be a members only area that you have to pay for
The day it becomes a pay site is the day a site called something like "metube' takes over where youtube left off.
The music industry needs to realize that youtube is really nothing more than free promotion for its artists. They have to stop looking at everything and having visions of dollar signs. Its what put them into this mess in the first place.
Re: Warner Music Group Pulls Music From YouTube
Neemo wrote:i can see youtube being a pay site in the future...at the very least i think there will be a members only area that you have to pay for
The day it becomes a pay site is the day a site called something like "metube' takes over where youtube left off.
The music industry needs to realize that youtube is really nothing more than free promotion for its artists. They have to stop looking at everything and having visions of dollar signs. Its what put them into this mess in the first place.
It's also what will make them crash like the auto industry.
Maybe I should copyright the phrase "music recession"
Wait...Gene Simmons prolly beat me to it 
Re: Warner Music Group Pulls Music From YouTube
Neemo wrote:i can see youtube being a pay site in the future...at the very least i think there will be a members only area that you have to pay for
The day it becomes a pay site is the day a site called something like "metube' takes over where youtube left off.
The music industry needs to realize that youtube is really nothing more than free promotion for its artists. They have to stop looking at everything and having visions of dollar signs. Its what put them into this mess in the first place.
The music industry keeps taking steps backwards. We're now at the age where anyone with a computer, and some decent recording equipment can put their music out there. There's now a website that lets you put your music on itunes. There's no need for some huge record deal to get your music out there for the masses.
This is just one of the many nails already in the coffin.
Re: Warner Music Group Pulls Music From YouTube
The RIAA just officially announced they are going to stop pursuing future lawsuits against downloaders.
They gave some bullshit reasoning of coming up with better ways to attack illegal downloaders, but the fact of the matter is - they lost. The people won.
Regardless of your opinions on this matter, the bottom line is everyone KNEW when they started it was an impossible task. It was a scare tactic on it's best day. What are they going to do? Personally sue billions of people across the world? Then they tried copy-protection stuff on the albums, which was circumvented within seconds.
They keep staving off the inevitable. The music industry, and I also believe the movie/TV industry is going to become more a 'fanship' enterprise down the road. No different than sports. If you like the Cubs, you go get tix. If you like GN'R you go to a show. If you like bowling, you go to a bowling alley.
That's what music is going to become imo. If you like GN'R, you'll buy their albums, but it won't be a mass-audience product. Movies and season sets of TV shows will only be purchased by the fans of those shows.
Downloading will just become a way of life, not pursued, stopped or prosecuted, because it's really already a way of life, and instead of just accepting it, they keep wasting money trying to fight it.
And then doing this YouTube thing, CONTINUES to show further and further steps backwards by them. They are only screwing themselves. They keep fighting the future kicking and screaming, instead of just learning to live with their surroundings.
Just like with the new age old argument of "did the CD leaks, hurt album sales?" Hell fucking no. The only way that argument works, is if UMG & GN'R both knew the album's material sucked SO MUCH that the leaks hurt album sales, because their intention was to just drop it in stores with no heard material, so everyone would buy it just to hear what it was like... and that's such a mindfuck to try to work your way out of to make it make sense, that it's impossible within itself.
Music is still profitable. It's just not AS profitable as it once was. Just the way the cookie has crumbled. It's cliche at this point, but the internet took the music industry and decapitated it.
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Re: Warner Music Group Pulls Music From YouTube
The problem is...what happens when music and TV industries can't make enough profit to justify the costs/risks involved in production then things go bad. Either:
1. Quality of productions is lowered so as to lower produiction cost
2. Less 'risky' stuff is greenlit
3. Less content is produced.
Right now the big profits of the successes pay for the failures. Especially in films. It costs millions of dollars to make a hollywood film - yes good films can be made cheap - but in general cetrain standards of production value requre certain amounts of money to pull off. You can't make a filn like jurassic park look as good as it did without a few million.
if you are an investor - and it can not be demostrated that you are likely to get any value back for your dollars - you simply won't put the money into film.
Re: Warner Music Group Pulls Music From YouTube
Actually I disagree with that entirely. I think the quality of the product will be HIGHER, because the demand is lower. They'll want to win you over, with the upmost QUALITY. Not best marketed. Artists like Kanye West & Fall Out Boy would be dead meat.
The circulation of films being released could be lowered to maybe a few each month, rather than a few each week, and quality would be expected on top-tier releases. Sequels would probably be majorly uped, and original films down, because certain titles would be deemed 'marketable brand names'.
Films like the "Batman" franchise, can always be expected to pull in a few hundred million. Maybe not "The Dark Knight" doing nearly a billion worldwide, but it's a franchise that's never seen a flop. Projects like "Saw" would be upped. Something that could be made cheap, and double if not triple profits.
TV will NEVER go under. As long as there's commercials, and there's people to watch those commercials, and by the featured products. TV also has NEVER been profitable on the actual shows themselves. Many high-budget projects, some even bigger named shows, have never turned a profit, and older shows have only recently allowed their rights holders to break even through syndication and DVD sales.
It's time for the entertainment industry to change. It'll either die, or learn to adapt. But the way it's been done for the last several decades - is over.
