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Rex
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Re: CD - One million copies sold

Rex wrote:
sic. wrote:

"The 'Better' music video will be out in a week or so. Monumental promotion will start very soon!" - Axl, 12/11/08

Monumental promotion should've started four or so days ago...

I don't remember Axl saying that when I read the transcript.

sic.
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Re: CD - One million copies sold

sic. wrote:

And I didn't really pay all that much attention to what Braidie said anyway, since he danced around so many issues in his usual 'say a lot, reveal rather little' manner.

The exact quote, as somebody'd put in the promotion bit afterwards, read like so: Soon is the word as in a week or so.

But there's no video to talk about...

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

Monumental promotion should've started back in the summer.

strat0
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strat0 wrote:
sic. wrote:

And I didn't really pay all that much attention to what Braidie said anyway, since he danced around so many issues in his usual 'say a lot, reveal rather little' manner.

The exact quote, as somebody'd put in the promotion bit afterwards, read like so: Soon is the word as in a week or so.

But there's no video to talk about...

Last time he said a week or so wasn't more like 3 months? lol

axlcrazy
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axlcrazy wrote:
Rex wrote:
sic. wrote:

"The 'Better' music video will be out in a week or so. Monumental promotion will start very soon!" - Axl, 12/11/08

Monumental promotion should've started four or so days ago...

I don't remember Axl saying that when I read the transcript.

AXL Did not say "monumental Promotion"!!!  17

sic.
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Re: CD - One million copies sold

sic. wrote:

In order to gain better understanding of the situation, I thought I'd post an article speculating on the would-be sales of CD.


"Will anyone be buying albums by the time GN'R releases CD?
Chicago Tribune
June 9,  2008

Elvis Costello and the Imposters recorded and mixed an album, "Momofuku," in a week earlier this year and released it on vinyl (old school!) in April and on CD in early May.

Guns N' Roses, despite Dr. Pepper's best efforts, still hasn't released its 14-years-in-the-making "Chinese Democracy." I love how Amazon.com has added this listing with the note: "Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available."

Here's something for GN'R frontman Axl Rose to keep in mind: The longer he waits, the fewer copies he's likely to sell.


Let's look at Soundscan figures of some recent releases of veteran acts:

Madonna: Her new "Hard Candy" has sold 374,000 copies over its first two weeks. "Confessions on a Dance Floor" (2005) sold 560,000 copies over its first two weeks on the way to 1.7 million total.

Bruce Springsteen: Last fall's "Magic" has sold 1 million copies (CDs plus downloads). "The Rising" (2002) sold 2.1 million.

The B-52's: The surprisingly spritely "Funplex"has sold 76,000 copies in its first seven weeks out, compared to 134,000 over that same time frame for their last album, "Good Stuff" (1992, and that one lacked singer Cindy Wilson).

The Eagles: "Long Road Out of Eden,"the band's first studio album in 28 years, was 2007's third biggest seller thanks in large part to the exclusive Wal-Mart push. Still, its 3 million copies sold falls well short of its '70s megasellers "Hotel California" (more than 16 million in pre-SoundScan numbers) and "The Long Run" (more than 7 million).

Sheryl Crow: Her well-reviewed "Detours" has sold 315,000 copies since its Feb. 5 release. Her more downbeat "Wildflower" (2005) sold 954,000 over the same period.

R.E.M.: Their return to actual rock and their best reviews since the mid-â 90s--"already have propelled "Accelerate" past 2004's leaden "Around the Sun," which sold a total of 234,000 copies. Although "Accelerate" has moved 242,000 copies in its first six weeks out, it's still lagging behind 2001's unenthusiastically received "Reveal," which sold 289,000 over the same period on the way to a disappointing total of 416,000.

Elvis Costello: "Momofuku" has sold fewer combined LP/CD/digital copies so far than "The Delivery Man" did in its first week out in 2004--and hardly anyone bought the underappreciated "The Delivery Man."


What's the problem here? Is it primarily...

a. Illegal downloading is killing music sales.
b. These acts' fans buy less music as they've gotten older.
c. These acts have produced so much music already that no one feels the need for much more.
d. Their music used to be undeniable. Now it isn't.

Do tell."

Source: Chicago Tribune


CD sold a total of 318,000 copies during its initial two-week run in the US, which is Madonna territory.

Mikkamakka
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Mikkamakka wrote:

This argument fails when we look at the most recent statistics of Metallica and AC/DC. Classic rock bands start to sell better than they did in the last few years. The exception is Guns N' Roses.

sic.
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sic. wrote:

When comparing GNR to Metallica and AC/DC, it needs to be remembered that both bands have been maintaining a steady fanbase and a high profile due to consistent touring and a steady stream of new studio albums. They also promoted their albums properly (which goes double for the Wal-Mart exclusive Black Ice).

On the other hand, GNR finally comes out with the new album, with practically no promotion. BestBuy acquire over a million copies, but can't put a decent campaign together, likely due to time constraints. Axl just goes underground. No new video, a lineup consisting of unknowns, and a good part of the album already leaked months ago.

The outside hype had been steadily dying since '99, and finally croaked somewhere in between the Dr Pepper announcement and the Antiquiet leaks. Azoff was certainly a genius, he figured an impeccable way to make peace between Axl and Geffen; sell the debt to BestBuy in full. After Axl'd spent years pumping money out of the record company in pursuit of the mythical album, one final rock n' roll swindle was necessary before the sucker could be released.

Someone had to end up with the check.

Mikkamakka
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Re: CD - One million copies sold

Mikkamakka wrote:

Axl kept the name that still attracts a lot of classic rock fans. Compare the effect of 'Guns N' Roses are back with Axl Rose and a bunch of new guys' with 'Axl Rose's new band, A Cat Named Dexter released its first album'. Which would you buy rather? well, you'd buy both, but Joe Public rather buys a Guns N' Roses album than an Axl Rose album.

@ the BB deal: there must have been a very good reason for them to take this road of sure money instead of risking. They knew it would be a flop in GN'R terms, so they wanted to make more money they could have made without the BB deal. It was all about the benjamins.

sic.
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Re: CD - One million copies sold

sic. wrote:

As far as Geffen is concerned, CD sold 1,3 million copies in the US. Money in the bank.

The album's selling as well as it does due to the name. One'd think at least Best Buy would be interested in promotion, which makes their lackluster approach rather interesting to say the least.

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