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Tommie
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Mackenzie Phillips: I slept with my own father
Their long-term sexual relationship eventually became consensual
PEOPLE.com
updated 9:27 p.m. ET, Tues., Sept . 22, 2009

“Don’t hate my father,” Mackenzie Phillips tells PEOPLE.

But in a tell-all book out Wednesday, the former childhood actress reveals that her dad, musician John Phillips of the ’60s band the Mamas and the Papas, engaged with her in a long-term incestuous relationship.

Phillips, 49, who has survived drug addiction, arrests and divorce, writes in the book “High on Arrival” that she was already a star playing a boy-crazy teen on the TV sitcom “One Day at a Time” when her father had sex with her on the night before she was to marry Jeff Sessler, a member of the Rolling Stones entourage, in 1979.

“On the eve of my wedding, my father showed up, determined to stop it,” writes Phillips, who was 19 and a heavy drug user at the time. “I had tons of pills, and Dad had tons of everything too. Eventually I passed out on Dad’s bed.”

“My father was not a man with boundaries. He was full of love, and he was sick with drugs. I woke up that night from a blackout to find myself having sex with my own father.

“Had this happened before? I didn’t know. All I can say is it was the first time I was aware of it. For a moment I was in my body, in that horrible truth, and then I slid back into a blackout.”

Phillips’ life began to spiral out of control. In 1980, she was fired from “One Day at a Time” because of her constant drug use. That same year, she went to rehab — with her father. She even toured with him in a band called the New Mamas and the Papas. Her sexual relationship with him had become consensual.

“I was a fragment of a person, and my secret isolated me,” she writes.

“One night Dad said, ‘We could just run away to a country where no one would look down on us. There are countries where this is an accepted practice. Maybe Fiji.’

“He was completely delusional. No, I thought, we’re going to hell for this.”
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RussTCB
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RussTCB wrote:

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PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:

Yes, very. She's prob led a very fucked up life. Surprising she's somewhat sane.

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

Just FYI, John's wife at the time is saying this is a complete lie, not to mention Mackenzie has had a history of being called an opportunistic "liar" by former family members.

With that said... I believe her.

Tommie
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Tommie wrote:

It keeps getting better:
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Phillips says she may have aborted dad’s child

Actress also says father taught her to roll joints, injected her with cocaine
The Associated Press
updated 8:19 p.m. ET, Wed., Sept . 23, 2009

CHICAGO - Former child star Mackenzie Phillips said Wednesday that she had a decade-long sexual relationship with her father, pop superstar John Phillips, who also taught her how to roll joints and injected her with cocaine.

Mackenzie Phillips, 49, writes in her new book, "High on Arrival," that she had sex with her father on the night before she was to get married in 1979 at age 19.

Phillips wrote in her book: "I woke up that night from a blackout to find myself having sex with my own father." John Phillips, who died in 2001, was the leader of the 1960s group the Mamas and the Papas.

She told "The Oprah Winfrey Show" in an interview that aired Wednesday that her siblings "definitely have a problem with this." Winfrey also read a statement from Genevieve Waite, John Phillips' wife at the time of the alleged abuse and Mackenzie's stepmother. Waite's statement said John Phillips was "incapable, no matter how drunk or drugged he was, of having such a relationship with his own child."

Phillips, 49, who starred on TV's "One Day at a Time," said the sexual relationship with her father lasted a decade and ended when she became pregnant and didn't know who had fathered the child. She had an abortion, which her father paid for, and "and I never let him touch me again."

Phillips' mother is Susan Adams, the first of John Phillips' four wives. He was also married for eight years to "Mamas and Papas" singer and co-founder Michelle Phillips.

Phillips has long acknowledged having drug problems, and she told Winfrey that she first tried cocaine when she was 11 years old. Her father did drugs with her, taught her to roll joints and injected her with cocaine. Phillips said she's been clean for a year after pleading guilty to possessing cocaine and entering a drug treatment program.

‘Someone needs to put a face on consensual incest’
She said she confronted her father in the early stages of the abuse, which she described as rape.

"My dad said, 'Raped you? Don't you mean when we made love?' And in that moment I thought, 'Wow, I'm really on my own here,'" Phillips said. She learned to turn her anger toward herself and "boxed it away" rather than think about the drug-fueled incest, she said.

Phillips said she doesn't hate her father, who died in 2001 of heart failure at the age of 65.

"I understand that he was a very tortured man and ... passed that torture down to me," she said.

Phillips said the sexual relationship, although she believes it eventually became consensual, was "an abuse of power" and "a betrayal" on her father's part. She said she forgave John Phillips on his deathbed.

"I can't be the only one this has happened to," Phillips said. "Someone needs to put a face on consensual incest."

Half-sister Chynna Phillips told US Weekly that a "part of her died" when Mackenzie Phillips first told her about the sexual relationship in 1997.

"They were both doing drugs together," the former member of the 1990s pop group Wilson Phillips told the magazine in Friday editions. "After long nights of heroin use, she's claiming that she once woke up and that my father was on top of her having sex with her. Was he actually raping her? I don't know. Do I believe that they had an incestuous relationship and that it went on for 10 years? Yes."

Mackenzie Phillips' book was in the top 20 on Amazon.com as of Wednesday afternoon, but it wouldn't be the first popular book about consensual incest. In 1997, novelist Kathryn Harrison had a best-seller with "The Kiss," a memoir about her affair with her father.

John Phillips, who also had an acknowledged history of drug abuse, co-founded the Mamas and the Papas and helped write its biggest hits, including "California Dreamin'" and "Monday Monday." He also helped organize the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival, which helped introduce Jimi Hendrix to American audiences.
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Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

Interesting that alot of the family is backing her up. In the past, it's been dicey.

Incest is actually a bigger problem than people let on, and it's a sad state, as it has to be the ultimate of psychological damage.

Although I struggle to grasp a grown woman, continuing on a sexual relationship with her father for a decade. Maybe as a child it was confusing, but for that long?

You also have to wonder would she had stopped the sexual relationship, had she not become pregnant. If that hadn't happened, it could've went on forever, in theory.

I just don't think she's owning up to her own part in it. I mean, yes she's admitting it was consensual, but then describes it as an abuse of power. A few times, okay, I get it. Abuse of power when you were a child. Okay, I get it. But a decade, as an adult woman... sounds more to me like you liked it and enjoyed participating in it, which is the reason you're fucked up. Not your father being fucked up.

jmo

faldor
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faldor wrote:

I don't know whether to believe her.  She obviously hasn't been the most stable person in her lifetime.  And the father isn't alive to defend himself, so who knows?  I'd hate to think she's making this up to get some exposure, but crazier things have happened.

Chynna does believe her though, and she was hot.

misterID
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misterID wrote:

I always thought Bijou Philips was the hot daughter.

‘Someone needs to put a face on consensual incest’

A little part of me laughed when I read that, partly because of the "eeewwww" factor.

If you're having sex with your dad at 18 its hard for me to see that as rape. Even if you're both on drugs. Especially when she's calling it "consensual incest." I know she said she woke up and he was on top of her, but that just seems like an easy out considering they did it again and again and again...

I mean, when she confronted him with "Raping her" and he called it making love, what did she do, say "Making love... Well, I guess its okay then."

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

She saw the fact that he drugged her up, then she awoke with him doing her as 'rape'.

Although John Phillips is a weird ass scumbag... I agree with him. It was not rape.

Basically, her father and her had an unnatural relationship, and were drug buddies. They got high, she blacked out or had hazy memory (which is not uncommon on drugs), and he and her got it on. Suddenly it's rape.

She can't even remember how it started. For all she knows, she could've been the one putting the moves on her dad. She was high as a kite. The fact tha the relationship continued for a decade, pretty much gives creedence to the fact she didn't have much of an issue with it... until she needed to sell a book.

If getting fucked under the influence is 'rape', then I think i've been raped MANY times.

James
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James wrote:
faldor wrote:

Chynna does believe her though, and she was hot.

I was a huge Wilson Phillips fan when I was a teenager. Used to get teased for it too, but I didn't care. Was kinda funny looking back though. Was listening to tons of GNR, Slayer, Metallica, Death Angel, Megadeth, Soundgarden,etc. and had my Wilson Phillips tape with me as well. 16


Chynna was my favorite, but the red head was too hot to trot in this video. This was actually my favorite video at the time, and would have sold my soul to the devil then just to fuck her for a nanosecond.






That was a really good album. Deserved to blow up the way it did. Too bad they pretty much suffered from a sophomore jinx though. Musical times were changing. They should have waited a bit longer.


As far as this incest crap goes, it's believable but it also reeks of attention whoring. The fact he is dead and cant defend the accusations makes it even worse. It's really the only thing she can use to sell this book, which definitely calls its authenticity into question.


If getting fucked under the influence is 'rape', then I think i've been raped MANY times.

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‘Someone needs to put a face on consensual incest’

No they don't. Last thing the world needs is a celebrity condoning this stuff.

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