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Will
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Re: New UK Law Allows Police To Hack Into Users PC

Will wrote:

The power of anti piracy organizations is constantly growing and latest news from Great Britain sounds somehow scary: The Home Office has quietly adopted a new plan to allow police across Britain routinely to hack into people’s personal computers without a warrant. The move, which follows a decision by the European Union’s council of ministers in Brussels, has angered civil liberties groups and opposition MPs. They described it as a sinister extension of the surveillance state which drives “a coach and horses” through privacy laws. The hacking is known as “remote searching”. It allows police or MI5 officers who may be hundreds of miles away to examine covertly the hard drive of someone’s PC at his home, office or hotel room. Material gathered in this way includes the content of all e-mails, web-browsing habits and instant messaging.


Under the Brussels edict, police across the EU have been given the green light to expand the implementation of a rarely used power involving warrantless intrusive surveillance of private property. The strategy will allow French, German and other EU forces to ask British officers to hack into someone’s UK computer and pass over any material gleaned. A remote search can be granted if a senior officer says he “believes” that it is “proportionate” and necessary to prevent or detect serious crime — defined as any offence attracting a jail sentence of more than three years. The authorities could break into a suspect’s home or office and insert a “key-logging” device into an individual’s computer. This would collect and, if necessary, transmit details of all the suspect’s keystrokes. The Home Office said it was working with other EU states to develop details of the proposals.

Source: The Times Online

Shite sad

mickronson
 Rep: 118 

Re: New UK Law Allows Police To Hack Into Users PC

mickronson wrote:

this obviously relies on the "suspect" being a computer noob.. good luck to em gettin anywhere near my fkin hd..

Will
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Re: New UK Law Allows Police To Hack Into Users PC

Will wrote:
mickronson wrote:

this obviously relies on the "suspect" being a computer noob.. good luck to em gettin anywhere near my fkin hd..

Did you miss the part about them breaking into a suspects home? 16

mickronson
 Rep: 118 

Re: New UK Law Allows Police To Hack Into Users PC

mickronson wrote:

Even then, it`d be hard...
passwords galore not to mention 256bit completely encrypted drive
no emails saved, no IM logs...
oh and the cat.
not that i have anything to hide.. i just dont want thieves gettin anything more than the laptop itself if it should ever happen...
oh and i have a hidden program run that sends an email to one thats not setup in a client, which i could check later on and gather an IP from which I could then try and get the ISP to help me locate the person with it
OTT ? 16 noooo

oh did i mention the strand of hair across my door 14

Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: New UK Law Allows Police To Hack Into Users PC

Axlin16 wrote:

Civil Liberties and privacy rights thrown out the window, because Lars ain't gonna get that gold-lined pool he wanted.

If this shit starts in the states, i'll definitely have the ACLU on speed dial.

polluxlm
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Re: New UK Law Allows Police To Hack Into Users PC

polluxlm wrote:

Start? Your government can do far worse on the pretense you're involved in subversive activities (terrorism).

There's no stopping it. Living room cameras are probably next on the list.

Axlin16
 Rep: 768 

Re: New UK Law Allows Police To Hack Into Users PC

Axlin16 wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

Start? Your government can do far worse on the pretense you're involved in subversive activities (terrorism).

There's no stopping it. Living room cameras are probably next on the list.

I haven't heard, nor seen anything to support that statement. It might exist, but the U.S. certainly hasn't abused it.

I remember when the Patriot Act started, people were crying the same thing, and funny... nothing happened.

And dipping into someone's privacy, because they might be involved in terroristic activities, or selling drugs or guns is TOTALLY different from robbing someone's privacy, because Metallica makes $1 million less a year, out of $20 million.

James
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Re: New UK Law Allows Police To Hack Into Users PC

James wrote:

Our government certainly has carte blanche, but like axlin08 said, it has yet to be fully implemented or abused. Its one of the reasons it went over so well.

I'm sure it'll bite us on the ass at a later date though.

polluxlm
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Re: New UK Law Allows Police To Hack Into Users PC

polluxlm wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

Start? Your government can do far worse on the pretense you're involved in subversive activities (terrorism).

There's no stopping it. Living room cameras are probably next on the list.

I haven't heard, nor seen anything to support that statement. It might exist, but the U.S. certainly hasn't abused it.

I remember when the Patriot Act started, people were crying the same thing, and funny... nothing happened.

And dipping into someone's privacy, because they might be involved in terroristic activities, or selling drugs or guns is TOTALLY different from robbing someone's privacy, because Metallica makes $1 million less a year, out of $20 million.

You haven't heard anything regarding this UK law either. tongue

By the way, this is not a UK law per se, it's a EU law. Another dangerous step when the "Union" starts to meddle in police affairs.

There's been plenty of abuses, some of which I've linked to here before. People getting detained for days and asked ridiculous questions (when did you last have sex kinda stuff) just because they look "suspicious" or "have a record", people getting hauled in for questioning just because the neighbors thought they saw something, all those innocent men down at Guantanamo (and other places) who have rotted in a cell for years without even a charge.

The examples are abound, but the worst part is they can do a lot worse than that even, it just haven't been used all that much yet. Do you know buying Marijuana can be interpreted as a terrorist activity since some of that buy money ends up in the middle east?

Axlin16
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Re: New UK Law Allows Police To Hack Into Users PC

Axlin16 wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

all those innocent men down at Guantanamo

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polluxlm wrote:

Do you know buying Marijuana can be interpreted as a terrorist activity since some of that buy money ends up in the middle east?

Yes I do, but i've seen many people busted for it, friends included, and they ain't sitting down at Guantanamo. Most of them got misdemenors and probation.

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