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polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: World Trade Center Bombing (1993)

polluxlm wrote:

New York Times, Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1

"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart
Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast"

By Ralph Blumenthal

Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.

The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said.

The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings that Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as being in a far better position than previously known to foil the February 26th bombing of New York City's tallest towers.

The explosion left six people dead, more than a thousand people injured, and damages in excess of half-a-billion dollars. Four men are now on trial in Manhattan Federal Court [on charges of involvement] in that attack.

Mr. Salem, a 43-year-old former Egyptian Army officer, was used by the Government [of the United States] to penetrate a circle of Muslim extremists who are now charged in two bombing cases: the World Trade Center attack, and a foiled plot to destroy the United Nations, the Hudson River tunnels, and other New York City landmarks. He is the crucial witness in the second bombing case, but his work for the Government was erratic, and for months before the World Trade Center blast, he was feuding with the F.B.I.

Supervisor `Messed It Up'

After the bombing, he resumed his undercover work. In an undated transcript of a conversation from that period, Mr. Salem recounts a talk he had had earlier with an agent about an unnamed F.B.I. supervisor who, he said, "came and messed it up."

"He requested to meet me in the hotel," Mr. Salem says of the supervisor.

"He requested to make me to testify, and if he didn't push for that, we'll be going building the bomb with a phony powder, and grabbing the people who was involved in it. But since you, we didn't do that."

The transcript quotes Mr. Salem as saying that he wanted to complain to F.B.I. Headquarters in Washington about the Bureau's failure to stop the bombing, but was dissuaded by an agent identified as John Anticev.

Mr. Salem said Mr. Anticev had told him,

"He said, I don't think that the New York people would like the things out of the New York Office to go to Washington, D.C."

Another agent, identified as Nancy Floyd, does not dispute Mr. Salem's account, but rather, appears to agree with it, saying of the `New York people':

"Well, of course not, because they don't want to get their butts chewed."

Additional transcripts

FBI Special Agent John Anticev: But, uh, basically nothing has changed. I'm just telling you for my own sake that nothing, that this isn't a salary, that it's'”you know. But you got paid regularly for good information. I mean the expenses were a little bit out of the ordinary and it was really questioned. Don't tell Nancy I told you this. [Nancy Floyd is another FBI Special Agent who worked with Emad A. Salem in his informant capacity.]

FBI undercover agent Emad A. Salem: Well, I have to tell her of course.

Anticev: Well then, if you have to, you have to.

Salem: Yeah, I mean because the lady was being honest and I was being honest and everything was submitted with a receipt and now it's questionable.

Anticev: It's not questionable, it's like a little out of the ordinary.

Salem: Okay. Alright. I don't think it was. If that's what you think guys, fine, but I don't think that because we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the D.A. and we was all informed about it and we know that the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful, great case!

Anticev: Well.

Salem: And then he put his head in the sand and said "Oh, no, no, that's not true, he is son of a bitch." [Deep breath.] Okay. It's built with a different way in another place and that's it.

Anticev: No, don't make any rash decisions. I'm just trying to be as honest with you as I can.

Salem: Of course, I appreciate that.

Anticev: And as far as the payments go, and everything like that, they're there. I guarantee you that they are there.

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FBI Confidential Informant Emad A. Salem: [Have] you ever verified information and you find me falsifying any information to the Bureau?

FBI Special Agent John Anticev: Falsify? No. No.

Salem: No. Alright. So, every single information I supplied, it's very excellent and correct.

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Salem: Nobody asked me to work till midnight. I leave at 9 and come back at midnight, to get some sleep and get up next morning to...to get exposed to  people who's trying to...like an hour today with this reporter trying to just grab something out of my teeth, and I gotta think if it's tied to the bureau, it's gotta be a certain level, not too high...it shouldn't be...and I gotta cover up my back with people being happy about what I'm saying...

Anticev: Yeah, I feel the same way right now, trying to make everybody happy.   

Anticev: I don't know how else to say it...I want you to keep doing what you're doing, not only...forget about one supervisor, or one asac or whatever. We're doing this for higher reasons. We know what we're doing, and we know what it's going to mean in the future. Forget about bureaucrats. Forget about them, they come and go. Ok?

Salem: Ok

Anticev: We know what we're doing and we'll at least be able to look at each other and say "We tried the best we could". You know, not for the government. The government is a very, you know uh uh what do you call it...unidentifiable thing. You know, it's a...it's not a...often it's one person affecting you. Other times there are some bureaucratic...things. But we'll still know what we did, and we're not gonna leave you out on the cold on funding, payments and you know...and that's that.

Salem: Ok, ok.

Audio: http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/SalemWBAI.mp3

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After the bombing, Salem anguished to one FBI agent, 'You were informed. Everything is ready. The day and the time. Boom. Lock them up and that's that. That's why I feel so bad.' On another tape, Salem asked an FBI agent, 'Do you deny your supervisor is the main reason of bombing the World Trade Center?' The agent did not deny Salem's charge.

http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0408c.asp

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: World Trade Center Bombing (1993)

James wrote:

FBI shouldn't have been within a light year of investigating this. It should have been the CIA, and with a sneaky move of using counterfeit money, could have got the Secret Service involved.

THAT attack was supposed to be 9/11. In 1993 when Clinton was still a rookie with a neutered democratic congress. That's a scary thought. An attack of that magnitude happening with a changing of the guard so early in the post Cold War era would have been catastrophic for this country.

Might have been doomsday.

polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: World Trade Center Bombing (1993)

polluxlm wrote:

I believe the conspirators are selfish and resourceful enough to calculate doomsday scenarios out of their equations.

The mistake was the reliance on amateur patsies, and only that. Quite a poor job to be honest. Luckily for them the media and the D.A once more had no interest at all in exposing what was in the very least gross government misconduct.

They got it right 2 years later. This time a domestical terrorist. Deep military connections, as usual. The ultimate effect was no doubt disappointing to the plotters, but at least they got some stair legislation through.

Again in the late 90s with Cole and the embassy, until they hit the jackpot and came full circle with another WTC attack. The dry politicians mugs were unrecognizable as they stood tripping like school children as George II signed the Patriot acts and took Americas freedoms away for ever. The playing field is now open, as they say.

It's not doomsday. That's just what they want us think. Last year it was global warming, and just this week we had the Hadron Collider (which if possible of creating doomsday wont do so until a month from now when they reach the necessary acceleration and start doing the actual experiment).

A new world order. A world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be...
-George H.W. Bush

George Bush said, which is a phrase I use much myself, we need a new world order.
-Bill Clinton

In this century Americans and Europeans will be required to do more, not less. Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice.
-Barack H. Obama

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beal. The world is a business, Mr. Beal, and it has been since man crawled out of the slime.

Our children will live, Mr. Beal, to see that...perfect world in which there is no war and famine, oppression or brutality.

One vast and ecumenical holding company for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock. All necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.
-Mr. Jensen, Network.

Perfect? I don't know about that. To them perhaps.

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