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RussTCB
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Re: Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit

RussTCB wrote:

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-D-
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Re: Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit

-D- wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

I guess what interests me, is that in a world where Axl's voice is diminishing due to age or whatever factor, why does the band focus on live performance? Why focus on what has become the weak link?

Bumble and DJ together is a killer line up. Axl has the writing ability, and in the studio his voice could be maximised.

Yet they don't do that. They just play the old music even though it highlights the kinds of problems people saw tonight. Why? I guess maybe they realise that's what the bulk of the audience wants? Or maybe it's a financial necessity? I'd be curious to know.

People accuse the fans of being negative. But in my opinion it's because the brand pushes hard the parts of the experience that are questionable now (live versions of AFD) while entirely minimising all the things about modern GNR that kick ass.

Adler is putting out a rock record with a bunch of guys who while they sound alright would be played under the table by frank, bumble, and DJ.....but you'll hear his record in a month or two...and you may never hear the wicked record GNR would make...cos they're busy playing AFD. Just don't understand.

money brother, plain and simple

-D-
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Re: Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit

-D- wrote:

Some of u liked RIR also

If he was sick, excused

if not, this was a fucking trainwreck.

That being said, I'm sure halfway through Vegas he will start kicking ass. thats usually his M.O.

Please stop with the BS age excuses.

monkeychow
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Re: Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit

monkeychow wrote:
dave-gnfnr wrote:

Axl does not practice, the band members have been saying it since the UYI days.

You know I agree that it wasn't a good performance but I think there's much more to it than that.

We know Axl doesn't practise much with the band, but that doesn't translate to knowing that he doesn't have some kind of private voice regimen. The band practise is about stage blocking, dividing up the solos and so on.

Axl practising wouldn't so much be about him running through November Rain as it would be about him doing warm up and down exercises each day, doing those opera singer exercises and so on, doing breathing work to strengthen his diagraphm and that kind of thing.

For all you know Axl does this daily and what we get is actually how it sounds WITH that kind of work and it would be worse or impossible without it.

We just don't know.

For all the examples of Axl getting good mid tour there's also times he's come good out of nowhere. I think the 09 japan shows didn't have a warm up yet he sounded good on those.

Also lazyiness doesn't account for other changes, like the sudden return to rasp in 06, and the strange decision to sing everything clean in 2001.

Also there's videos where Axl does a jungle scream and looks pleased, and ones where he does it and looks dissatisfied.

I suspect there's a more serious issue with his voice than just "couldn't be fucked" and that perhaps like some other medical problems it might come and go a little....so some days he can scream it out and other days he struggles to get any usable Axl tone.

-D-
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Re: Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit

-D- wrote:

This fucking guy starts singing You're Crazy during WTTJ

HAHAHAHAHAH

Oh but it was amazing

RussTCB
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Re: Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit

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smoke
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Re: Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit

smoke wrote:

So is this a GNR is supposed to be on stage delay, or just the show in general is running behind?

monkeychow
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Re: Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit

monkeychow wrote:

Given Ali likes the clean tone best, and prefers the feel of the 2012 wobbling pitch displayed during last night's rendition of "better" over the cold cutting sharp anger of a 2009 Axl...I can only hope that he'll report that the gig sounded bad...as to the rest of us...that will mean Axl's back!

RussTCB
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Re: Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit

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Neemo
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Re: Guns N' Roses, Jack White set for Bridge School Benefit

Neemo wrote:

finished watching the rest of the show

imo jungle is the worst performance of the night, followed by better, still jungle had its moments that were good, like i said earlier i havent been a fan of better live for a few years

but Crazy, Sweet Child, UTLH, patience and PC are were all pretty ace imo

RussTCB wrote:
smoke wrote:

So is this a GNR is supposed to be on stage delay, or just the show in general is running behind?

The whole show. He said it started 15 mins late to start with and now their up to about 30 mins behind for each act.

axl's fault to be sure 16

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