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Re: On Truth, The Man Who Wasn't There and Happy Endings
gibbo wrote:Intercourse wrote:This.
I watched the videos from the UYI gigs with the old band, Axl was a force of nature.
I have NEVER seen a front man move with such primal rage and presence.Now at 50 i don't expect him to be the same but with his money and time, he should be showing up at big milestone gigs (Rio 2011 / MTV comeback) lean, mean and ready to roll.
I will NEVER understand how a "perfectionist" like him would not do so.
Yeah look at the singer out of chilli pepper hes in pretty good shape and sings about as good as he ever has i think hes around the same age as axl
kedis can't sing for shit.
nvr could.
he's about good enough for his bro-rapping schtick but he's not a singer.that doesn't excuse axl of course. & is OffTopic as well. #justsayin
Yeah am not a fan never have got into them but he doesnt sound like his voice has changed
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Re: On Truth, The Man Who Wasn't There and Happy Endings
Axlin12 wrote:russtcb wrote:Lol at you guys. "He failed" "It's over"
If those things are true, why is GN'R about to launch another successful European tour?
Getting a little ahead of ourselves aren't we?
I don't pay much attention, but I think some of them are festivals, which will be "successful" on some level assuming they show up (which they have recently).
They're promoting the Serbian Exit Festival with a picture of classic GN'R here in Hungary. I wrote to them that only one of these guys will be there, so it might create false hopes - and on the other hand Axl himself doesn't want them to be associated with GN'R anymore. I even mentioned the Activision lawsuit. They wrote back saying 'Axl will be there. This itself worth the show!'
Well, for me it would. But it's a fraud that they are selling this product with the AFD picture.
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Re: On Truth, The Man Who Wasn't There and Happy Endings
Lol, no offense to you but that mindset from the festival guys is so stereotypical backwards eastern european country. That cheap, trying to sell you some fake crap you always get in the gullible rich westerner tourist areas. 
Re: On Truth, The Man Who Wasn't There and Happy Endings
"Until every single one of [the inaccurate accounts and fallacies regarding the old lineup] has been brought out in the light, there isn't room to consider a conversation let alone a reunion."
Well, Axl,
Your truth is yours.
That is, your view of the world and the priorities you set to things, ideas and people are the sum of the stuff you've picked up along the way, and for better or for worse, those things make up your personality. Your truth has elements from all over, like everyone else's, but it's made up by yourself alone.
You know how to align yourself to it accordingly, in order to stay true. You stick to your truth, despite the heavy lifting you oftentimes have to do with it. The outside world often has a truth drowning yours.
The media has different truths outlet to outlet, reporter to reporter. The public have different truths about the lineups. The fans certainly have different truths on release schedules.
Axl, be serious. The reason your truth is not heard is because of the way we see you, a man desperately trying to remain still.
"But hey if ya gotta then maybe we can get the "no show, grandstanding, publicity stunt, disrespectful, he doesn't care about the fans" crap out of the way as quickly as we can and let's move on."
The public got what they wanted, perhaps. All the GNR drama about will they or won't they, with you yourself contributing to the ambiguity. How did you tweet on December 7th, after the nomination was publicized?
"I’d like to thank the Rock N’ Roll Hall of Fame and our fans. This is your victory."
And then you drop the bombshell a few days before the show to get a "grandstanding" for your truth. Everybody boos at you, all news reports on the event seem to feature the Man Who Wasn't There.
Myles Kennedy showed up to take your place. But no-one dared to bill the performance as "Guns N' Roses". Izzy did the right thing by not playing, and that goes in line with what the others have been doing over the years. The last time four or more AFD members were on the same stage was when Izzy came back in 1993.
You could've said no thanks for a performance the easy way, but knowing the public image of you, the media was anxious for the suspense, and you probably had a laugh at it yourself. And everybody who wanted a show seemed to enjoy the performance by Myles and the Guns alumni.
"Life doesn't owe you your own personal happy ending especially at another's, or in this case several others', expense."
You blew a hole to the reunion scheme the hard way. You paid back every harsh word about CD, the band and yourself in rose petals by stating, no, not going. The world sneers at your dream, you sneer back when asked to pull a number for them.
The biggest losers at the moment are your fans, dude. The ones who bother to wait out for you despite you being notoriously late from just about everything. The ones who share your truth about Chinese Democracy and about what GNR today is all about.
You wanted the public to move on, well, maybe RRHOF will do the trick. But if you want your fans to heed that call, you better haul ass as well. Cause frankly, your boy, DJ, is less than Gilby in the GNR legacy, as he's never played on a GNR album.
"Until [the truth is out there], there isn't room to consider a conversation let alone a reunion."
Whenever you want to start washing the dirty laundry of the old Guns publicly, I'm willing to bet we're all ears. Wait, you did that after releasing CD. It was a lot about how you felt what was necessary, a lot less about what happened from your point of view. In fact, you were so busy debunking other peoples' stories, you forgot to tell how it actually went down.
Do a song about it and you'll be heard alright.
Well done that is great. Have you got a blog? You should think about getting one. With posts like this I'd read it.
Re: On Truth, The Man Who Wasn't There and Happy Endings
I've came to a realisation about how I feel about Axl and the current state of GN'R. I thought I was completely done with it. That's not true, there are two things that will get me back behind Axl.
1. He finds a way to make peace with the members of the old band. Am not asking or expecting a reunion just some sort of acknowledgement that he can let by gones be by gones and make a public appearance with Slash. Not even to perform.
However that probably won't happen so...
2. He comes out on these next shows like a man possessed. He cracks out a new song or two and plays the best performance he can. He busts out Double Talkin Jive and does stupid shit like rant on Slash and if he really still has a problem with the guy then just let shit fly and go off the wall. Call him a parasite, cancer, whatever. Shit on the hall of fame, and just rant his ass off. If he wants to be the most hated man in rock n roll then amp it up to ten and just make every show spit venomous agression in the direction of those he's pissed off at. I'll disagree with him, I'll think he's being a immature asshole, but damn it I will at least back him.
...however that probably won't happen either so I'm probably done.
Re: On Truth, The Man Who Wasn't There and Happy Endings
You don't care about a new album? Or are you just thinking short term? That's really the only thing I hope to get from him at some point.
I care about a new album but short term I don't see that happening. If I want new songs played of course I want a new album.
Re: On Truth, The Man Who Wasn't There and Happy Endings
strangely enough, i'm more tempted to go to the upcoming GnR Dublin show now than i was this time last week.
i'm thinking that just maybe there's enough fuel to axl's fire to do something different & maybe even new.
i doubt it tho. i don't think we'll see him turn this into a positive. i don't think we'll see added energy from the fallout of the RnRHoF incident, or new/different material in the setlist.
& @ the end of the day, i just can't afford the canoli's it'd take, on the small chance that i might somehow get a different GnR gig to the one's i've seen over the past 10yrs.
so yea. i'm prob stepping off the bandwagon until there's a new album.
this'll be the first GnR tour i've missed since Axl started touring again in 2002. but i just can't justify it these days. i'm hoping Axl would give me an excuse to go & get excited, but he hasn't & i've lost faith in anything new or exciting coming. so... that's where i am.
