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- dr_love6977
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Each 15 second clip I hear gets me more and more excited. I read an Article with James where he was saying how he brought out his "Eat Fuk", and "More Beer" explorers, the flying v from 'Kill Em All', and his Mesa Mark IIC+. The combination of that equipment produced the tone we all loved on MOP and AJFA.
I'm actually being optimistic.
- monkeychow
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I dunno i think unforgiven 2 was named that because they were writing it then realised the riffs where ripping off their own unforgiven riff...so maybe its just that its a similar rif structure again or someghing.
I'm the only one...but i liked Devil's Dance, The Memory remains and fuel from re-load 
Anyway...i think this potential to be a good album for sure. Or it could turn into St Anger. But it seems they want to move away from that kind of thing.
- metallex78
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But when they were making ST Anger they said similar things to what they are now about going back to their roots etc etc
Here we go again...
I follow Metallica very closely and I'd really to see where exactly the band stated that they were "going back to their roots" on St Anger. The only people who said that were the ones actually hoping for it. The band always stated that St Anger would be a fucked up, ugly metal album with some of the speed of their earlier material, which is pretty dead on.
The fact that the band are actually saying their new stuff is like their 80's material gives me hope that it might actually be true.
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Aussie wrote:But when they were making ST Anger they said similar things to what they are now about going back to their roots etc etc
Here we go again...
I follow Metallica very closely and I'd really to see where exactly the band stated that they were "going back to their roots" on St Anger. The only people who said that were the ones actually hoping for it. The band always stated that St Anger would be a fucked up, ugly metal album with some of the speed of their earlier material, which is pretty dead on.
The fact that the band are actually saying their new stuff is like their 80's material gives me hope that it might actually be true.
Was it the some kind of monster documentary that had some of the the making of ST anger in? The one where they are all sitting around kicking about lyrics and stuff like "Tick Tock Tick Tock"?
Im gonna do some diggging - I'm sure I heard Lars use some words similar to the effect of going back to the Garage Days kinda sound.
Dont' get me started on the fucking clanging of the drums and ugly snare sound on that album. I know they deliberately tried to go away from the load albums and more toward that rawer less produced sort of sound by Jesus Christ - find a happy medium people!
Maybe it was the St Anger bonus DVD or something? Im gonna find it
- metallex78
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Bob Rock described them as having a 'back to the garage' vibe in terms of raw production like you mentioned, but I still don't recall anything about "returning to their roots"
I would've thought if you'd watched that movie you'd understand St Anger more anyway.
That documentary shows the band on the verge of splitting, and St Anger was the catharsis for them to get it all out and move forward so they could still be a band.
And that's the thing here too, most people don't realise, that if there was no St Anger, there would probably be no more Metallica.
Oh, and I dig St Anger, tin-can drums and all. 
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I might have to hire that DVD out again to see if it was just Bob Rock saying it - I can't recall (I was sure Lars said it somewhere but I could be wrong).
But really that album is nothing like the old songs - even down to the song formation (which makes you think they weren't really trying to replicate the old stuff - as you suggested). I mean there hardly seems to be any real lead guitar in it or any guitar solos for that matter. The only thing similar to their early stuff is that there are a couple of longer tracks on there and thats about where the similarities end.
I really hope that with this new album they manage to put some classic guitar solos in with some instrumental interludes etc thrown throught the songs where there is a change of tempo and stuff - THAT would be like going back to their roots. I still reckon it hurts them not having Cliff Burton there, his classical background I think is what heavily influenced some of the real melodic guitar interludes etc (I really like some of that stuff). Hope they can pull it off (Metallica would probably be my next favourite band after GN'R) and I've loved most of what they have done over the years. I also think they should go back to having Hetfield write most of the lyrics rather than the collaborative effort (it didn't seem to work for some reason with St Anger).
- metallex78
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Well, you'll be happy to hear that most of the stuff you're asking for seems to be what you're gonna get on Death Magnetic. Kirk is soloing, James is sole lyric writer, Lars mentions songs with tempo changes, and they've even stated Rob's great musicianship has really stepped them up, I suppose in the same way Cliff Burton did.
My point is that St Anger was never a "return to their roots", while with Death Magnetic they have been saying that it is. And in the sound clips I've heard, I'd have to agree. Definitely their strongest material in years.
Metallica is my second fav band to GN'R too, I guess us Aussies have good taste in music!
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Was it the some kind of monster documentary that had some of the the making of ST anger in? The one where they are all sitting around kicking about lyrics and stuff like "Tick Tock Tick Tock"?
Im gonna do some diggging - I'm sure I heard Lars use some words similar to the effect of going back to the Garage Days kinda sound.
Hetfield said in 'Some kind of Monster' documentary that he said to the guys how about this idea... a new wave kind of Metallica. (By New Wave I think he was referring to Nu-Metal that was big then like KoRn, not 80's Duran Duran or Safety Dance). Kirk wasn't too into the idea, and upset when he recommended no solos.
The drums sucked, but they took a chance and strayed away from ReLoadedAgain. St Anger is actually a pretty cool song though. The drums & too much Pro Tools copying & pasting hurt the overall outcome, but it's more of a concept album to me. Moreso than any of these emo bands claiming to release concept albums.
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I still reckon it hurts them not having Cliff Burton there, his classical background I think is what heavily influenced some of the real melodic guitar interludes etc (I really like some of that stuff).
Listen to some Infectious Grooves songs on Youtube if you're worried about Trujillo, he makes speed metal melodic. I think he was a great addition, but we shall see. Cliff was great, and Jason was great as well, kindof wierd fit personality but whatever. Anyway, let's hope good things happen in 3's.
