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misterID wrote:Trump isn't loyal to anyone, he loves his ass being kissed. Russia hasn't gotten anything out of us. They just haven't. Now they're helping Bernie, something he kept silent about until the Washington Post leaked it.... Which his followers are outright calling a conspiracy, and he's not pushing back on that allegation.
Bernie has had a LONG history of praising dictators, not because they kiss his ass but because they share the same basic ideology. Bernie hasn't praised Russia, he's praised the Soviet Union. Even spent his honeymoon there. Trump would love a Trump Tower Moscow. Bernie is in it for the ideology, not the money. That's scarier, imo.
You seek to give Trump a pass but not Bernie.
And you make quite the allegation that Bernie loves dictators.
You also seem to take the stance that Russia has no significant influence over US elections but are now bothered by the fact that they are now allegedly doing so on Bernies behalf.
I’m sorry to tell you ID that none of these ‘centrists’ are garnering influence. Trump is not a centrist despite your belief. He’s just random. There is no plan. There is no thinking beyond today. It seems you’ll be voting for Trump based on your most recent posts.
I'm not giving Trump a pass, neither deserve a "pass."
I never said Russian interference is actually helping Bernie win, just that they're helping him.
(These are odd interpretations of my posts, btw)
I didn't say Trump was a centrist, he's a sort of populist, which is closer to a centrist than a socialist.
I won't be voting at all if Bernie is the nominee.
He's supported Castro, Maduro, Chavez, China, the Soviet Union, and the Nicaraguan Sandinistas. Bernie: "It’s funny, sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is, that people are lining up for food. That is a good thing!”
If centrists are pushed out of the Democratic party then they're going to lose the house and never win the senate. The Party is over.
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Any of you willing to admit you’ll vote for Trump over Sanders? Objectively, Sanders is far more dangerous than Trump. The past 3 years have proven that.
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Reading what he's planning to do with executive powers, I would vote for Trump over Sanders, if I voted. Florida is off the table if Bernie is the nominee.
People need to stop with the "democracy is under threat" and he's a dictator. He's been a fool but no one's rights have been taken away.
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Yea...I’m not so thrilled with how he’s pardoning white collar crime and involving himself in shit he shouldn’t involve himself in.
Pardoning Blogo is a joke. Trump seems to be consolidating all the executive power he can.
Trump holds rallies where he incites as much anger and dysfunction as anyone.
I’m not forgiving his behavior.
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I’d also like to add that this alleged centrist is being supported by far right wingers in Congress.
Random Trump and his far right wing Republican supporters (mostly white men i might add) will never have my support.
And look...after Bernie has won a few primaries you already see him as more of a threat than the guy who is caging immigrants and running up massive deficits.
Trump has picked a fight with way too many of his fellow Americans.
If/when he’s re-elected he will double and triple down on his attacks on fellow Americans.
He will tout his record on the economy but I’ve gotta tell ya....i see and feel no difference in the real world and in real life. And honestly why should i give a fuck about unemployment rates? Especially when Trump supporters disregard any of these numbers prior to November 2016.
Like Bloomberg says....Trump is a self promoting carnival barker.
Maybe we’re just in a declining Republic with too many elderly people. A generation that went from peace, love, dope to fuck immigrants.
Quite frankly, I’m for anything...political candidate or otherwise that throws these baby boomers off the bus.
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People need to stop with the "democracy is under threat" and he's a dictator. He's been a fool but no one's rights have been taken away.
Well, I'm not so sure. The whole phrase "Fake News" has gotten 50% of the public to believe Trump had no connection whatsoever to Russia during the campaign. He's had 6 or 7 campaign staff indicted over it, as well as his own lawyer in Cohen. He's likely going to pardon Stone, he fired Session & Comey and latest 2 or more DNI & Intelligence heads. There's been others, but the point is that the crimes are all around him like a moat, but he keeps firing & replacing with his own people to coverup & deflect.
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Well, I'm not so sure. The whole phrase "Fake News" has gotten 50% of the public to believe Trump had no connection whatsoever to Russia during the campaign. He's had 6 or 7 campaign staff indicted over it
This is exactly what I mean. You’re doing Russia’s work spreading this disinformation. Can you cite a single indictment related to Russia or the campaign?
