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- Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:On what objective, known grounds?
At minimum a major cover up. Do you even Tucker Carlson?
Not regularly. I enjoy the way he formulates arguments and breaks down others’. He’s incredibly intelligent. I just think he occasionally is disingenuous in his belief on an issue to simply generate a discussion point. Kind of like that really smart person you know who’s a devout Christian. You don’t really believe they buy into what they’re saying.
He has been on this for weeks. The only mainstream guy still covering it and he is calling fools out. It is laughable at this point. The time line is still changing.
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slcpunk wrote:Uh-oh, Jeff Sessions you in trouble...
Wow, that does seem big: http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/ … index.html
See, I think this traces back to Trump running a family run business, where he was boss, his family had oversight, and others had a quality job for life. And he's used to that. However, this campaign was a mish-mosh of randomly acquired talent with vague expertise & skill level in their field. Not exactly knocking him, I heard that's how campaigns come together early on. But what you also get is a bit less trust with them, and if people begin doing shady things, this isn't going to become the Mafia where no one rats on anyone. I think it went from the top down (Manofort/Flynn down to Popadopalous/Page), and I also believe Kushner thought he executed a master plan when in reality it was near treason.
Tomorrow might be huge (again!)
I’m being completely genuine here. What are you reading in that article that in anyway suggests Sessions was aware of possible collusion? And further more, what evidence do you have that Page went to Russia to coordinate in collusion with Russia?
The article clearly says that Page was an unknown to Sessions, that they talked in passing at a group dinner, and never met or spoke again. Their only interaction in life was at a campaign dinner with many people in attendance. The article clearly says this. It says Sessions didn’t know who Page was, and would have no more reason to take note of or remember the comment anymore than you’d recall the comment of your wife’s co-worker’s Christmas travel plans at her company’s Christmas party.
And more so, there’s no evidence Page’s trip to speak at a university at Moscow had anything to do with collusion. It’s right in the article. They don’t attempt to make another claim or dispute this.
What you’re taking from it is conspiracy or completely unsubstantiated from the evidence provided. To make that claim, you need evidence unique to that claim. You can’t accuse me of being drunk just because there’s an empty glass in the room. Just because a drunk person needs a glass to get drunk doesn’t mean every time a glass is present the person is drunk.
This is what frustrates me so much. Instead of talking about policy or how absurd Trump’s personal conduct is, we’re distracted with unsubstantiated nonsense and conspiracy. And it accomplishes nothing but derailing the importance of real, factual events that deserve public feedback.
Re: US Politics Thread
Randall Flagg wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:At minimum a major cover up. Do you even Tucker Carlson?
Not regularly. I enjoy the way he formulates arguments and breaks down others’. He’s incredibly intelligent. I just think he occasionally is disingenuous in his belief on an issue to simply generate a discussion point. Kind of like that really smart person you know who’s a devout Christian. You don’t really believe they buy into what they’re saying.
He has been on this for weeks. The only mainstream guy still covering it and he is calling fools out. It is laughable at this point. The time line is still changing.
I’m having a hard time following your comment...what’s tucker Carlson saying?
I find him to be smart but so fucking smug.
Re: US Politics Thread
PaSnow wrote:slcpunk wrote:Uh-oh, Jeff Sessions you in trouble...
Wow, that does seem big: http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/ … index.html
See, I think this traces back to Trump running a family run business, where he was boss, his family had oversight, and others had a quality job for life. And he's used to that. However, this campaign was a mish-mosh of randomly acquired talent with vague expertise & skill level in their field. Not exactly knocking him, I heard that's how campaigns come together early on. But what you also get is a bit less trust with them, and if people begin doing shady things, this isn't going to become the Mafia where no one rats on anyone. I think it went from the top down (Manofort/Flynn down to Popadopalous/Page), and I also believe Kushner thought he executed a master plan when in reality it was near treason.
Tomorrow might be huge (again!)
I’m being completely genuine here. What are you reading in that article that I’m anyway suggests Sessions was aware of possible collusion? And further more, what evidence do you have that Page went to Russia to coordinate in collusion with Russia?
The article clearly says that Page was an unknown to Sessions, that they talked in passing at a group dinner, and never met or spoke again. Their only interaction in life was at a campaign dinner with many people in attendance. The article clearly says this. It says Sessions didn’t know who Page was, and would have no more reason to take note of or remember the comment anymore than you’d recall the comment of your wife’s co-workers Christmas travel plans at her company’s Christmas party.
And more so, there’s no evidence Page’s trip to speak at a university at Moscow had anything to do with collusion. It’s right in the article. They don’t attempt to make another claim or dispute this.
What you’re taking from it is conspiracy or completely unsubstantiated from the evidence provided. To make that claim, you need evidence unique to that claim. You can’t accuse me of being drunk just because there’s an empty glass in the room. Just because a drunk person needs a glass to get drunk doesn’t mean every time a glass is present the person is drunk.
This is what frustrates me so much. Instead of talking about policy or how absurd Trump’s personal conduct is, we’re distracted with unsubstantiated nonsense and conspiracy. And it accomplishes nothing but derailing the importance of real, factual events that deserve public feedback.
What is there truly to discuss?
These massive tax cuts? It’s pretty straightforward...massive tax cuts going to the trumps of this country...
They want to destroy any socialist aspects of this country. No more safety nets...anyone considered to be “sucking off the system” with entitlements will be quickly thrown to the curb.
People like me (owners of a Corp) wil vastly disproportionately benefit.
Let’s not forget that trump wants to simultaneously cut taxes and increase spending...this being the reason I do not believe it will ever pass. How will the austerity folks ever justify this to their supposed fiscally responsible supporters?
Oh wait...trumps base doesn’t hold him accountable and supports him while he repeatedly embarrassed himself and this country.
It’s irresponsible and reckless. And that’s exactly why it’s in fashion politically.
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Re: US Politics Thread
Smoking Guns wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:Not regularly. I enjoy the way he formulates arguments and breaks down others’. He’s incredibly intelligent. I just think he occasionally is disingenuous in his belief on an issue to simply generate a discussion point. Kind of like that really smart person you know who’s a devout Christian. You don’t really believe they buy into what they’re saying.
He has been on this for weeks. The only mainstream guy still covering it and he is calling fools out. It is laughable at this point. The time line is still changing.
I’m having a hard time following your comment...what’s tucker Carlson saying?
I find him to be smart but so fucking smug.
The FBI is hiding so much Shit. In NYC we have a total bio on the guy know where he was, where he rented the vehicle, blah blah blah, photos, a motive. We know all this because he actually did it etc. With Paddock we still have no Fucking clue after 30 Fucking days why a multi millionaire decided to shoot 600 folks. So much weird shit. Freaky weird. One couple that survived said they say other gunmen etc ran into a steel fence and their car EXPLODED. Haha. Now we learn today there wer 2 police officers With Campos. We also learn that a cop accidentally shot his gun in Paddock’s room long after he was already “dead”. Nothing adds up
Re: US Politics Thread
slcpunk wrote:Uh-oh, Jeff Sessions you in trouble...
Falling for it hook line and sinker. When Trump met with the Mexican President as a candidate, was that collusion too? Dude, this is your 9/11 redux. Watching you the coming 2 years is going to be awesome entertainment. Your posts get my heart pumping. Thank you in advance.
I can’t wait for loose change part 2 to come out.
What in the world are you talking about?
Are you even reading what's happening?
Apparently not.
slcpunk wrote:Uh-oh, Jeff Sessions you in trouble...
Wow, that does seem big: http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/ … index.html
See, I think this traces back to Trump running a family run business, where he was boss, his family had oversight, and others had a quality job for life. And he's used to that. However, this campaign was a mish-mosh of randomly acquired talent with vague expertise & skill level in their field. Not exactly knocking him, I heard that's how campaigns come together early on. But what you also get is a bit less trust with them, and if people begin doing shady things, this isn't going to become the Mafia where no one rats on anyone. I think it went from the top down (Manofort/Flynn down to Popadopalous/Page), and I also believe Kushner thought he executed a master plan when in reality it was near treason.
Tomorrow might be huge (again!)
On a side note. How stupid is Carter Page? Let's just assume he's 100% completely innocent. He gave a 5+ hour testimony without a lawyer. He was also on MSNBC the other night answering questions. He acts like he doesn't have a worry in the world. I wouldn't say jack shit, and I would answer any questions without my lawyer present. It wouldn't matter if I did anything or not.
slcpunk wrote:Uh-oh, Jeff Sessions you in trouble...
What happened? I can’t stand him. Give me some good news.
The Papadopoulos story pretty much shows that Sessions lied under oath. Carter Page also confirmed that Sessions knew about trips/communication with Russia as well prior to his testimony.
- Smoking Guns
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Re: US Politics Thread
This is from a few days ago though tonight’s segment was fantastic.
- Randall Flagg
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Re: US Politics Thread
Randall Flagg wrote:slcpunk wrote:Uh-oh, Jeff Sessions you in trouble...
Falling for it hook line and sinker. When Trump met with the Mexican President as a candidate, was that collusion too? Dude, this is your 9/11 redux. Watching you the coming 2 years is going to be awesome entertainment. Your posts get my heart pumping. Thank you in advance.
I can’t wait for loose change part 2 to come out.
What in the world are you talking about?
Are you even reading what's happening?
Apparently not.
PaSnow wrote:slcpunk wrote:Uh-oh, Jeff Sessions you in trouble...
Wow, that does seem big: http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/ … index.html
See, I think this traces back to Trump running a family run business, where he was boss, his family had oversight, and others had a quality job for life. And he's used to that. However, this campaign was a mish-mosh of randomly acquired talent with vague expertise & skill level in their field. Not exactly knocking him, I heard that's how campaigns come together early on. But what you also get is a bit less trust with them, and if people begin doing shady things, this isn't going to become the Mafia where no one rats on anyone. I think it went from the top down (Manofort/Flynn down to Popadopalous/Page), and I also believe Kushner thought he executed a master plan when in reality it was near treason.
Tomorrow might be huge (again!)
On a side note. How stupid is Carter Page? Let's just assume he's 100% completely innocent. He gave a 5+ hour testimony without a lawyer. He was also on MSNBC the other night answering questions. He acts like he doesn't have a worry in the world. I wouldn't say jack shit, and I would answer any questions without my lawyer present. It wouldn't matter if I did anything or not.
Smoking Guns wrote:slcpunk wrote:Uh-oh, Jeff Sessions you in trouble...
What happened? I can’t stand him. Give me some good news.
The Papadopoulos story pretty much shows that Sessions lied under oath. Carter Page also confirmed that Sessions knew about trips/communication with Russia as well prior to his testimony.
I did read. Can you link the part of the story that supports the assertion Sessions lied uber oath? I can’t find it. Would love to understand what information you base your conclusions on.
Re: US Politics Thread
I’m being completely genuine here. What are you reading in that article that in anyway suggests Sessions was aware of possible collusion? And further more, what evidence do you have that Page went to Russia to coordinate in collusion with Russia?
So we now have Page & Popadopolous saying the mentioned Russia to Sessions, yet Sessions testified previously that he had 'No knowledge' of any Russia collusion, but didn't bother to mention this or recall them. Come on man, where there's smoke there's fire, and its gettin pretty smoky in here.
Re: US Politics Thread
On a side note. How stupid is Carter Page? Let's just assume he's 100% completely innocent. He gave a 5+ hour testimony without a lawyer. He was also on MSNBC the other night answering questions. He acts like he doesn't have a worry in the world. I wouldn't say jack shit, and I would answer any questions without my lawyer present. It wouldn't matter if I did anything or not.
Yeah, that doesn't add up. Maybe he has a plea deal in place with the Feds, otherwise Trump promised him he'll pardon him, or he's completed not involved and so confident he's admitted all truth, although that's awfully risky to not have a lawyer. In his mind he might be so scott free on this all, but in someone elses mind you might not be. I dunno but yeah that sure is a strange & risky thing.
