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Re: US Politics Thread
misterID wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:This story has become a non story in less than 12 hours leaving many embarrassed for even picking up the CNN story. Tom Brokal (sp) and Richard Engel spent 4 months trying to verify this story and were unable to. Minka Brizensky is greatly embarrassed that MSNBC and others even commented on such an unsubstantiated story.
It's not a non story, they could not validate it but there was enough credence that they couldn't dismiss it. And before you try and label a witch hunt by the media, the media had this for MONTHS and said nothing until it was given in a briefing.
Morning Joe is a Trump stooge program. Ask Megyn Kelly.
Eugene Robinson, Minka, and everyone else other than Joe Scarborough are all democrats!!! Minka said she would gladly discuss when it IS a story. Tom Brokal said him and Engel spent 4 months looking into this and found NOTHING!!!!!
That's not what they said. They said they couldn't pin it down, they did not dismiss it. But they weren't going to run it just to run it. And Richard was more interested in the financial aspects they might have.
Morning Joe is a Trump stooge network, it is SG. Sorry. They are only balanced when Trump is mad at them. Joe is a joke. The same guy who said Sara Palin would be president one day, then turns around and says she is destroying the republiucan party. He's a two faced, egotistical hypocrite. Mikka is going to follow whatever her man says.
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Re: US Politics Thread
Flagg, don't try and wipe your hands from this:
Randall Flagg wrote:Man, if that's true it's fucked up. On one hand I think it's completely disgusting. On the other I don't want to be the guy that tells people their fetish is fucked. But if true, he has to resign. Right or wrong, a guy who likes being pissed on can't be taken seriously as the President.
Sure you prefaced it with "if true" but you got caught up in it too. All of us implied "If its true", it's like the "Understood You" when you say "Shut the door". And don't just blame Dems. Remember it was just a few weeks ago a man drove 100+ miles and brought a rifle into a pizza shop because he thought Hillary Clinton was running a child sex ring trafficking operation out of it.
That said, I think the 'golden showers' is likely fake, as is the screen shot. However I do believe the CIA did know things about Trumps Russia business dealings, and possibly escorts he interacted with. That said, that alone doesn't make him unfit to serve. But he does have to watch out for who he offends. His brash attitude can catch up to him very quickly.
I don't think 4chan 'duped' the CIA. I think a reader posted that screenshot which went viral. But the CIA didn't associate with that at all, that was just the internet. I think the CIAs portion of the story is more business dealings, with possible sexual encounters along the lines of Elliot Spitzer.
Because you guys were going fucking nuts with it. When 5 or 6 people come running to post, I'm going to listen. I didn't go on a rant about how Trump was in the bag for Putin and we need to suspend the inauguration. I sssumed credible stuff would be forthcoming because I assume our media and intelligence agencies are objective. That's obviously not true any more.
Don't you dare lump me in with the hyenas who thought their spaghetti monster answered their prayers.
Re: US Politics Thread
misterID wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:Except he isn't being sued, the case was dismissed. I never said that Clinton was fucking underage kids. Just that if you were going to all of a sudden claim Trump was, you had to accept Clinton was too since he was on the same fucking plane no less than 5 times without a SS detail. I'm starting to realize why the internet has the reputation it does. You guys are becoming far too rabid and irrational in your claims. At least with Obama we didn't have a bunch of posters flooding every thread with birther tripe. It's going to be like it was under Bush again with Truther nonsense and loose change links every other post.
Did I say you -- you guys, as Trump's corner, SG went with that story when he thought it was against Bill. There was more damning evidence on Trump. The girl who was there singled Trump out as a participant. I didn't bring this story up, SG did.
That's Pollux you're talking about with the conspiracy shit, not us. This is still news. Maybe it will be debunked, we will see.
The story was the CIA questioned your next JFK about this report to let him know it was out there.
Pollux certainly pushed some nutty stories in his day, but he wasn't the ring leader behind the truther horseshit on the forums. That title belongs to SLC. I'm sure even now he'll tell you it was an inside job.
Bullshit. The planes were just holograms? That was Pollux.
Re: US Politics Thread
I wonder if NBC eventually plans to move Megyn Kelly into the mSNBC morning slot? I used to like Morning Joe, admittedly tho MSNBC as a whole is too liberal, but I hear bad things about the MJ show. Wonder if it's reaching its end or Scarboroughs contract is running up soon & he's looking to move.. Years ago they supposed almost went to CBS morning show, but I think CBS balked as they weren't sure their format & personalities would fit for broadcast TV. I'd guess too straightforward political & not enough fluff like GMA or Today.
Re: US Politics Thread
Smoking Guns wrote:misterID wrote:It's not a non story, they could not validate it but there was enough credence that they couldn't dismiss it. And before you try and label a witch hunt by the media, the media had this for MONTHS and said nothing until it was given in a briefing.
Morning Joe is a Trump stooge program. Ask Megyn Kelly.
Eugene Robinson, Minka, and everyone else other than Joe Scarborough are all democrats!!! Minka said she would gladly discuss when it IS a story. Tom Brokal said him and Engel spent 4 months looking into this and found NOTHING!!!!!
You're not going to get through to them. These are the same people who screamed Sessions was a racist but are completely silent as their party puts an actual racist (even their beloved SPLC calls the Nation of Islam a hate organization) in charge.
They want to believe they're rebels fighting the evil empire or internet marching in Selma in 1965.
You're lying again. I did speak out against Ellison. Like you're spinning this story. The CIA took the report to Trump to make him aware of it. The unfair Trump hating media kept silent about it for 4 months, but could not dismiss it. It was reported because Trump was briefed about it.
Re: US Politics Thread
PaSnow wrote:Flagg, don't try and wipe your hands from this:
Randall Flagg wrote:Man, if that's true it's fucked up. On one hand I think it's completely disgusting. On the other I don't want to be the guy that tells people their fetish is fucked. But if true, he has to resign. Right or wrong, a guy who likes being pissed on can't be taken seriously as the President.
Sure you prefaced it with "if true" but you got caught up in it too. All of us implied "If its true", it's like the "Understood You" when you say "Shut the door". And don't just blame Dems. Remember it was just a few weeks ago a man drove 100+ miles and brought a rifle into a pizza shop because he thought Hillary Clinton was running a child sex ring trafficking operation out of it.
That said, I think the 'golden showers' is likely fake, as is the screen shot. However I do believe the CIA did know things about Trumps Russia business dealings, and possibly escorts he interacted with. That said, that alone doesn't make him unfit to serve. But he does have to watch out for who he offends. His brash attitude can catch up to him very quickly.
I don't think 4chan 'duped' the CIA. I think a reader posted that screenshot which went viral. But the CIA didn't associate with that at all, that was just the internet. I think the CIAs portion of the story is more business dealings, with possible sexual encounters along the lines of Elliot Spitzer.
Because you guys were going fucking nuts with it. When 5 or 6 people come running to post, I'm going to listen. I didn't go on a rant about how Trump was in the bag for Putin and we need to suspend the inauguration. I sssumed credible stuff would be forthcoming because I assume our media and intelligence agencies are objective. That's obviously not true any more.
Don't you dare lump me in with the hyenas who thought their spaghetti monster answered their prayers.
You said, verbatim "he has to resign"!!
Secondly, if it's reads like viral conspiracy stuff just wait it out. Don't join in 30 seconds later saying "Wow"
- Randall Flagg
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Re: US Politics Thread
Randall Flagg wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:Eugene Robinson, Minka, and everyone else other than Joe Scarborough are all democrats!!! Minka said she would gladly discuss when it IS a story. Tom Brokal said him and Engel spent 4 months looking into this and found NOTHING!!!!!
You're not going to get through to them. These are the same people who screamed Sessions was a racist but are completely silent as their party puts an actual racist (even their beloved SPLC calls the Nation of Islam a hate organization) in charge.
They want to believe they're rebels fighting the evil empire or internet marching in Selma in 1965.
You're lying again. I did speak out against Ellison. Like you're spinning this story. The CIA took the report to Trump to make him aware of it. The unfair Trump hating media kept silent about it for 4 months, but could not dismiss it. It was reported because Trump was briefed about it.
True, you did. You were the only one. But you also said there was no way Ellison was getting the gig.
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: US Politics Thread
Randall Flagg wrote:PaSnow wrote:Flagg, don't try and wipe your hands from this:
Sure you prefaced it with "if true" but you got caught up in it too. All of us implied "If its true", it's like the "Understood You" when you say "Shut the door". And don't just blame Dems. Remember it was just a few weeks ago a man drove 100+ miles and brought a rifle into a pizza shop because he thought Hillary Clinton was running a child sex ring trafficking operation out of it.
That said, I think the 'golden showers' is likely fake, as is the screen shot. However I do believe the CIA did know things about Trumps Russia business dealings, and possibly escorts he interacted with. That said, that alone doesn't make him unfit to serve. But he does have to watch out for who he offends. His brash attitude can catch up to him very quickly.
I don't think 4chan 'duped' the CIA. I think a reader posted that screenshot which went viral. But the CIA didn't associate with that at all, that was just the internet. I think the CIAs portion of the story is more business dealings, with possible sexual encounters along the lines of Elliot Spitzer.
Because you guys were going fucking nuts with it. When 5 or 6 people come running to post, I'm going to listen. I didn't go on a rant about how Trump was in the bag for Putin and we need to suspend the inauguration. I sssumed credible stuff would be forthcoming because I assume our media and intelligence agencies are objective. That's obviously not true any more.
Don't you dare lump me in with the hyenas who thought their spaghetti monster answered their prayers.
You said, verbatim "he has to resign"!!
Secondly, if it's reads like viral conspiracy stuff just wait it out. Don't join in 30 seconds later saying "Wow"
"If true". You left out that qualifier.
Re: US Politics Thread
misterID wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:You're not going to get through to them. These are the same people who screamed Sessions was a racist but are completely silent as their party puts an actual racist (even their beloved SPLC calls the Nation of Islam a hate organization) in charge.
They want to believe they're rebels fighting the evil empire or internet marching in Selma in 1965.
You're lying again. I did speak out against Ellison. Like you're spinning this story. The CIA took the report to Trump to make him aware of it. The unfair Trump hating media kept silent about it for 4 months, but could not dismiss it. It was reported because Trump was briefed about it.
True, you did. You were the only one. But you also said there was no way Ellison was getting the gig.
Did he get the gig? When did this happen?
