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Re: Tim Palmer's two days on CD
All I know is that there were contracts drawn up for the second album release before Chinese was released and well????.....
The biggest number I heard was around 4 albums, one of them live (AFDem), the other maybe the remix album, and finally, CD2.
I know this is jumping the gun big time, but any tentative idea when you would like to see the next CD come out?
No, maybe same bat time, same bat channel next year but we'll have to see.
best bet is we get a few new songs on a new compilation around x-mas.
So soon? A compilation would make a world of sense, tho. It's a safer way to test the waters. Two new songs would be good, but they would both need Slash. Atlas Shrugged and Jackie Chan might be fun.
Then, after they hit every enormodome across the planet, new music will need to be a priority.
That's when one'd think the CD2 seals would be broken. It's also a matter of rebuilding the band and incorporating it with the CD legacy. Takes time, I imagine these people still need time together before they can start recording together.
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Re: Tim Palmer's two days on CD
the new touring is being funded by complete nostalgia....and this will play out around the world with or without new music. Let's be honest, they will sell as many tickets even if they only played UYI, AFD, and Lies. Sad but true.
Everyone will want to see this show. Then, after they hit every enormodome across the planet, new music will need to be a priority.
Yup. There's no point releasing an album at this point in the touring cycle. Once they've covered the USA, South America, Europe and Asia, then taken a break... then you might get an album. And they'd be mad to pass up the opportunity to promote a remastered Appetite next year.
Really, the only reason to release some new songs on a compilation in the mean time is to placate the fans and silence those voices in the media who are calling this tour a cash grab – to show that there's still gas in the tank.
Re: Tim Palmer's two days on CD
Well, it is a cash grab but I can live with it since it is being so well run and the shows are killer.
Apex, yep, any new music going forward will need Slash even it is Chinese era material. The ship has sailed on CD 2 unless Ax and the label decide to put out a huge boxset and be done with it.
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Re: Tim Palmer's two days on CD
The ship has sailed on CD 2 unless Ax and the label decide to put out a huge boxset and be done with it.
Even if they do put out a box set, it'll be a few years down the line. With Slash and Duff back in the band, why remind people of the long struggle to make Chinese Democracy? Whatever the reasons behind its delayed release, announcing a box set would be like handing the press a stick to beat Axl with; it'd mean dredging up all the old stories of $13m studio costs, Axl driving over producers' CDs in his car, Buckethead rehearsing in a coop.
And then there's the fact of the AFD anniversary, which all but demands a celebratory re-release. The label will be champing at the bit for this, given that Axl (probably) vetoed any Slash/Duff vintage material being released during the Chinese Democracy years – so they missed out on opportunities to repackage AFD during the 20th anniversary and the 25th anniversary.
Given the sheer quantity of Slash-era material in the vaults from the 80s and 90s (live concerts, rarities, etc), I'd wager it's a long, long time before we see any CD-era material released with Buckethead and Robin Finck playing on it. CD-era tracks with Slash/Duff overdubs, presented as new material? Sure, why not? But actual CD-era tracks presented as they were recorded? Prepare for a long wait.
Re: Tim Palmer's two days on CD
There's also a wealth of video footage (Perfect Crime) from the UYI days, which is, again, relevant.
I could see a documentary happen down the line, when plans settle and they feel like opening up.
Guns have many ways to reinvigorate the brand beyond mere touring, and the interest is high, again.
Re: Tim Palmer's two days on CD
Who fucking cares.
Seriously I am so ready for this CD era to be behind us. I am ready for the new era to start with Slash and Duff involved.
Not... gonna... happen
Sorry to break the news SG, but get ready for all of the diehards to now, with Slash & Duff back, sink their teeth into the CD process EVEN MORE than in the previous 15 years.
I've been convinced for years that the entire CD era, plus the album, was the Halloween III-moment of the band. The diehards are going to romanticize this period (already have), specifically the 1998-2004 period, post-breakup of the old band, during the revolving door of producers and bandmates, recasting, rebooting, new songs, new ideas, false starts, all of the above, etc.
And it's legend will grow and grow more. The casual audiences have labeled it a piece of shit (ala Halloween III) and moved the fuck on years ago. But the diehards will romanticize it to a point that it'll become the best album and direction the band ever took.
I'm convinced of it. And Slash & Duff playing the songs live with Axl, will add to it even more. The real period that SHOULD HAVE BEEN romanticized was that 1994-1996 period where the original band attempted to record a new album and the breakup happened, but apparently Robin Finck & Buckethead are more interesting than Slash, Duff, Gilby & Matt, mainly because the latter four all talked about that time period ad nauseum, so everyone moved on.
But the Chinese period remains a mystery. No different than the Halloween anthology idea, the lack of a new concept Halloween IV in the years after, and the fact that a new script by John Carpenter was ready to go with Myers/Loomis by 1986, and then got shelved in lawsuits. Halloween fans have romanticized that period as well, even though the casuals were more than happy to get Halloween 4, and 5 & 6 & 7 and move the fuck on.
Either way... the legend has only begun my friend. Only begun. And the fact that everyone has a different story, and Axl's behavior, as referenced in this piece, remains so bizarre... it can't get weirder. Or can it? Remember the jizz lobber rumor about Bucket? That one took the cake.
