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Re: Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating....
SLTS is one of the most overrated songs ever.
we've heard this all before.
given the song changed the world, changed many millions of people's lives, i'd say it's underrated.
it's not even that it's comparable to ever-lasting great songs like My Girl/Goodnight Irene/By the Time I Get to Phoenix/Dark End of the Street/Satisfaction/Imagine/Sweet Child/whatever the fuck.
it's that the song is a self-contained revolution, comparable to the likes of Like a Rolling Stone/Good Vibrations/Be My Baby & very little else.
it's not my favourite Nirvana song, & not even their most memorable riff (that's Come as You Are - my fave Nirvana song is Dumb), but its impact is ridiculous. its influence indescribable. one of the greatest most important biggest songs in history! overrated my backside!
Re: Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating....
When CD was the first single and you could stream it online with the count down clock, I sent the link to a heap of people. A number of them were saying the link wasn't working and they couldn't hear anything. What actually was happening is they were looking at the link, but the intro to the song was taking so long they ended up closing it because they didn't think it was working.
people w/that lack of an attn span don't deserve to listen to the song.
however i do fully understand those that turned off the album's stream after Shackler's Revenge! i always found that one of the funny footnotes of the mess, the discrepancy of those who listened to CD & then didn't listen to the rst of the album after SR started.
Re: Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating....
-D- wrote:I thought the song CD was pretty mediocre since hearing it at RIR 3.. shit when i saw it was first single.
A great single changes things.
Again, they could've released Stairway To Heaven II as the lead single and it would have "failed" without any push from the band/label. It had nothing to do with the quality or lack thereof of Chinese Democracy, the song IMO.
Complete fallacy, but believe what you want to believe.
Re: Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating....
Smoking Guns wrote:SLTS is one of the most overrated songs ever.
we've heard this all before.given the song changed the world, changed many millions of people's lives, i'd say it's underrated.
it's not even that it's comparable to ever-lasting great songs like My Girl/Goodnight Irene/By the Time I Get to Phoenix/Dark End of the Street/Satisfaction/Imagine/Sweet Child/whatever the fuck.
it's that the song is a self-contained revolution, comparable to the likes of Like a Rolling Stone/Good Vibrations/Be My Baby & very little else.
it's not my favourite Nirvana song, & not even their most memorable riff (that's Come as You Are - my fave Nirvana song is Dumb), but its impact is ridiculous. its influence indescribable. one of the greatest most important biggest songs in history! overrated my backside!
A song doesn't have to be great to change lives. Personally I think all Nirvana songs are overrated and I ilke many of them. They just aren't great songs.
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Re: Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating....
To me nirvana was about mood rather than the songwriting as such.
It's about the power of yelling those vocals, not giving a shit if you cough in the middle of the take, kicking into massive distortion then going quiet, belting the fuck out of the kit, being a complete mess up emotionally.
I wouldn't say the songs are great from a compositional view, especially when compared with something with impressive melody and construction like - say - Catcher in the Rye - but as a body of work nirvana was an awesome band for capturing that teenage vibe so damn well....it's sort of a case of the whole is better than the parts...at a nirvana show it's not so much about any specific song as about where the assault of the music took you overall emotionally....
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Cobain was the greatest American songwriter this side of Dylan. CitR wouldn't have been fit to wipe Kurt's ass.
His song-craft was just the greatest of his many talents. E.g. Polly - are you kidding me? Everything else comes second to his songwriting ability.
Not great songs? I dunno what to say, really. His contribution to the great American songbook couldnt possibly be overstated. He simply was blessed w/an extraordinary gift very few storytellers can match.
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faldor wrote:-D- wrote:I thought the song CD was pretty mediocre since hearing it at RIR 3.. shit when i saw it was first single.
A great single changes things.
Again, they could've released Stairway To Heaven II as the lead single and it would have "failed" without any push from the band/label. It had nothing to do with the quality or lack thereof of Chinese Democracy, the song IMO.
Complete fallacy, but believe what you want to believe.
maybe "nothing" to do with quality is a bit of a stretch but other than that I stand by my statement. Since you added nothing to "prove" my opinion is a fallacy I will continue to believe so. Thanks for your permission though. Very big of you.
Re: Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating....
buzzsaw wrote:faldor wrote:Again, they could've released Stairway To Heaven II as the lead single and it would have "failed" without any push from the band/label. It had nothing to do with the quality or lack thereof of Chinese Democracy, the song IMO.
Complete fallacy, but believe what you want to believe.
maybe "nothing" to do with quality is a bit of a stretch but other than that I stand by my statement. Since you added nothing to "prove" my opinion is a fallacy I will continue to believe so. Thanks for your permission though. Very big of you.
There's nothing I can say that's going to change your mind, so why bother?
Re: Bumblefoot not happy? Speculating....
Cobain was the greatest American songwriter this side of Dylan. CitR wouldn't have been fit to wipe Kurt's ass.
His song-craft was just the greatest of his many talents. E.g. Polly - are you kidding me? Everything else comes second to his songwriting ability.
Not great songs? I dunno what to say, really. His contribution to the great American songbook couldnt possibly be overstated. He simply was blessed w/an extraordinary gift very few storytellers can match.
Ummm...not even close, but you're entitled to your opinion. If he's America's great songwriter, we suck.
