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Re: Duff Book
15 beers, good ones, not that shit corona, every time i drink a corona i feel like drinking piss, not enough juice in it.
Oh and 22 dollars for a duff ticket? thats cheap man, hes coming to argentina and charging 180 pesos (45 dollars). If you like what he does just go.
Re: Duff Book
contract was renegotiated in 1992.....
The relationship between Guns N' Roses and UMG's Geffen Records division dates back to 1986, when Geffen's corporate predecessor, The David Geffen Company, entered into a recording agreement with five individuals, Steven Adler, Izzy Stradlin, Michael Duff McKagan, Saul Hudson and W. Axl Rose, who were professionally known as Guns N' Roses. In 1992, Geffen's corporate predecessor entered into a new recording agreement with Messrs. Hudson, McKagan and Rose dated September 1, 1992 (hereinafter the Recording Agreement). Prior to the signing of the 1992 Recording Agreement, Adler and Stradlin had left the band (although they still retained a royalty interest in master recordings created under the original 1986 agreement during their tenure in the band.)
Good find. Makes sense. Because see right there could vindicate Duff.
If they had to renegotiate the agreement in 1992, then I could see by 1993 Slash & Duff had to re-sign on the band thing. So Axl tries to sneakily get them to do it again, and this time they catch it and it dawns on them "WTF?"
Before Axl did it, and they went with it almost innocently. But I don't think Axl anticipated at the time they'd fire Steven, and Izzy would quit within a year.
Re: Duff Book
my perspective is while i'll take axl's word for it regarding the not going on stage - which duff does not accuse him of directly in his account.
but with regards axl's intentions i'm don't really believe him when he said: "Now at that time I didn’t know or think about brand names or corporate value etc. All I knew is that I came in with the name and from day one everyone had agreed to it being mine should we break up and now it was in writing.
I still didn’t grasp any other issues until long after I’d left and formed a new partnership which was only an effort to salvage Guns not steal it."
but i don't think finances were the sole motivation. axl knew what he was doing. trying to maximise his influence on the band & get control even at the expense of slash & duff's feelings, or them quitting. which is only natural, it's business. they're not friends, they're bandmates - they're a business. were.
& duff & slash (& izzy & steven) are to blame for letting him get away with it.
That's almost 1/2 price what I paid to go see Velvet Revolver and Megadeth several years ago.
£22??? Comeon John, what would you expect it's live music from someone who isn't a gypsy on the street.
that would buy me five beers in Dublin..cheap to see the Duffmeister.
3 beers in my town.
Two beers here...and maybe a half
5 or 6 beers in canada...unless its at the show then more like 3
15 beers, good ones, not that shit corona, every time i drink a corona i feel like drinking piss, not enough juice in it.
Oh and 22 dollars for a duff ticket? thats cheap man, hes coming to argentina and charging 180 pesos (45 dollars). If you like what he does just go.
undoubtedly some of you have more money than sense..
club gigs should be no more than 18clams. & 18 is stretching it. @ an extra £4 that's the majority of the price of a pint i'm losing out on. not cool.
anything from 12-16 usual & acceptable kind of.. but ideally a ten-spot or lower.
(slash was a complete rip-off. & that's me being polite & generous about it)
duff's worth like $100mil give or take, & may as well be if he's not. he doesn't need to be charging so much.
crucially it's very much against the ethos i thought was key to loaded. punk rock sell outs is what that price tag screams @ me.
i don't mind paying more for an arena gig - a lot more effort & people are involved into those productions.
it's not like they're gonna be playing loadsa classic songs
it'd be a good rock show if it were more accessible pricing. the audience would be better.
is he promoting the latest loaded record or his book?
maybe i'll catch him @ a book signing... should start thinking of some questions for him.
if i get into the gig for free i'll probably be the idiot requesting cornshucker.
so apologies in advance.
Re: Duff Book
my perspective is while i'll take axl's word for it regarding the not going on stage - which duff does not accuse him of directly in his account.
but with regards axl's intentions i'm don't really believe him when he said: "Now at that time I didn’t know or think about brand names or corporate value etc. All I knew is that I came in with the name and from day one everyone had agreed to it being mine should we break up and now it was in writing.
I still didn’t grasp any other issues until long after I’d left and formed a new partnership which was only an effort to salvage Guns not steal it."
but i don't think finances were the sole motivation. axl knew what he was doing. trying to maximise his influence on the band & get control even at the expense of slash & duff's feelings, or them quitting. which is only natural, it's business. they're not friends, they're bandmates - they're a business. were.
& duff & slash (& izzy & steven) are to blame for letting him get away with it.
I don't believe Axl either on his innocence in the whole thing. I think he fully knew what he was doing, probably through "bad company" as Junior Justice would call it.
But Axl obviously from day one took a real interest in handling GN'R business, when the rest didn't. And that is SOLELY their fault.
"Somedays you're the windshield, somedays you're the bug" - JR Ewing
Re: Duff Book
DUFF MCKAGAN: Question-And-Answer Session From NYC Book-Signing Event - Oct. 18, 2011
David Fricke, senior editor at Rolling Stone magazine, moderated a discussion with Duff McKagan (VELVET REVOLVER, GUNS N' ROSES, DUFF MCKAGAN'S LOADED) at Duff's October 4, 2011 book-signing event at the Strand bookstore in New York City. You can now watch video footage of the question-and-answer session below.
Duff's book, "It's So Easy (And Other Lies)", landed at position No. 17 on the New York Times "Hardcover Nonfiction" best sellers list.
(30+ min video well worth it if you have time. Great interview imho)
