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Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
russtcb wrote:
...except it wouldn't have been Axl in the room. It would've been Fernando on speaker phoneTrue. Axl is too busy with X-Box, Cheerios, Cheetos, underwear, and a couch to bother going to a board meeting.
You could make a very dark comedy along the lines of The Office about this.
The shitty lives of people in the record business trying to flog an outdated, dead format with pampered & out of touch and slightly mad rock stars breaking their balls about big and tiny things.I'm sure some of you guys have the minerals to write the script...some of the comments I read here (take a bow Axlin) make me almost loose my coffee in the mornings...
Thank you. It's what I try to do.
Most of the time I just offend people.
Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
This seems strange to say, but... Axl should do what Weird Al just did.
Weird Al just had an album come out. He had released some single songs on itunes, one of which I bought about 2 years ago. I bought that because he put out a message on facebook asking people to because he'd never had a non-parody chart before, and he was hoping this one would. I thought "What the hell, it's only $.99.
Then he compiled an e.p. of those songs, which he called "Internet Leaks". If you'd bought any of the songs on it, you paid $.99 less per song if you bought for the ep.
A week or two ago, he put out a full album with all of those songs on it. Again, if you bought any of those songs you paid $.99 less per song. The album also contains 10 videos put together by various animation studios. He got 10 videos to include with very little work on his part.
That album charted #9 on Billboard, his highest chart position ever, about 30 years after his debut.
Axl should take fucking notes.
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Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
There's an answer closer to home.
Bumble's got a pretty good model at the moment - releasing songs individually one every other month or so.
If you are like me and hate lossy formats you can get the Wav or Itunes Lossless or Flac. If you just want something simple you can pick up the mp3. If you're a guitarist you can get the song without the lead guitar track, a mix of the song with the lead higher to hear it, and the TAB of the song all in the one pack. Or you can get a pack with the 'stems' of the song to make your own mixes. Now that's something for everyone. From the very cheap - to the more expensive options for the hardcore fans.
I personally think it's gold, and all the research i've read shows that a variety of options seems to be the new model for the industry - give the people who want it free/near free that and then suck them into the funnel and the hardcores buy your elaborate products at the other end. Everyone loves you.
But to be honest...we don't actually know Axl's agenda. We don't know the relative importance of chart sucess / money / artistic expression / privacy and so on to him. So it's hard to say anything he should do really - without knowing what he actually wants to achieve these days. We can't really assume his goals.
I just hope that somehow one day we do hear some more of his music simply for the artistic value if nothing else. I've been listening to chinese a lot this week and he really is an amazing musician.
Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
There's an answer closer to home.
Bumble's got a pretty good model at the moment - releasing songs individually one every other month or so.
If you are like me and hate lossy formats you can get the Wav or Itunes Lossless or Flac. If you just want something simple you can pick up the mp3. If you're a guitarist you can get the song without the lead guitar track, a mix of the song with the lead higher to hear it, and the TAB of the song all in the one pack. Or you can get a pack with the 'stems' of the song to make your own mixes. Now that's something for everyone. From the very cheap - to the more expensive options for the hardcore fans.
I personally think it's gold, and all the research i've read shows that a variety of options seems to be the new model for the industry - give the people who want it free/near free that and then suck them into the funnel and the hardcores buy your elaborate products at the other end. Everyone loves you.
But to be honest...we don't actually know Axl's agenda. We don't know the relative importance of chart sucess / money / artistic expression / privacy and so on to him. So it's hard to say anything he should do really - without knowing what he actually wants to achieve these days. We can't really assume his goals.
I just hope that somehow one day we do hear some more of his music simply for the artistic value if nothing else. I've been listening to chinese a lot this week and he really is an amazing musician.
nice post...we don't know Axl's agenda and I think that is what is most frustrating for his fans. We have his Malibu Mafia trying to talk for him every now and then. But, we never really get a clear picture from the man himself as to what his personal goals are.:/
Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
Releasing one song per month is also no fuss.
You basically release an album per year, and only release one song per month. If you can't work up ONE song in a month... I don't know what to tell you.
Looking back, it's probably not fair to lump Slash, Izzy & Duff in with Axl, seeing how the other three know how to cut music and release it in a timely manner, but you do wonder how many industry people were right beside Guns back in the day like vultures lighting a fire under Axl's ass, combined with the band itself, to make GN'R stayed fresh and continued plans for future releases on a regular basis.
But everyone involved said that even for the UYI albums they had to beg Axl to get his ass in gear, and even then it was by phone, and mailing DAT's back n' forth to each other.
- monkeychow
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Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
To be silly for a moment.
I'd be happy with 1 a year. And that's actually the chinese democracy workpace it seems.
If you incude OMG...GNR basicly finished and released 15 new tracks in around as many years.
Going forward I'd be happier to have 1 new track like every march or something than wait with nothing for 15 more years then get an album 
I don't think it's realistic to request a track a month forever - I mean like that sounds like a lot of pressure to me...while some do an album a year - the average band I'd say cuts an album like every 3 years or so.
But i'd love something like a 3 track digital EP once every 2 oe 3 years. Like how adler released those 3 stand alone tracks with his book. GNR seems to tour every 3 or so years...so like they could release a new song for the tour..that kind of thing. In a way it would take the pressure off to me. Like you release CD2 and then there's "Is it as good as CD1", "How does it compare to UYI and AFD" etc. Individual songs are similar - no one expects every single song to be a November Rain or Estranged or a Junge. Could be a way to just release songs like "If the World" that are awesome but a little different to older material and let them breathe on their own. Just a thought.
I just think spreading it out would be awesome. Sort of like what happened with the leaking anyway. Like we had IRS, TWAT and Batter. the another batch a year or two on. lol.
As for your thing about lighting a fire under him. I dunno. I'd like a balance personally. Like 1 album every 15 years from Axl was a long ass wait from the perspective of us fans. Then again last thing I want Axl to do is start rushing music and belting out crap to make some quota. One thing I respect about axl a lot is that IMHO every track he's ever made is of a very high standard...even though some of us like some more than others - it's clear a lot of work and thought has gone into them all. Wouldn't like to see that changed too much just for speed.
Although I will say that when Axl sang on Bax's album it apparently happened spur of the moment. And that it seems the end product was released in a relatively short period of time from the recording session - and he sounds great on those tracks - so it's not like he's incapiable of doing stuff quickly in the right enviroment for it.
To bust further into fantasy. Sometimes I wish Axl would record a studio cut even of a cover or something and release it as a single or something. His voice is amazing on songs he didn't write just the same as those he did - the live version of "sailing" was so cool....a full on studio cut of that would be killer.
Re: Azoff-Axl Lawsuit Settled: Includes "comprehensive touring agreement"
nice post...we don't know Axl's agenda and I think that is what is most frustrating for his fans. We have his Malibu Mafia trying to talk for him every now and then. But, we never really get a clear picture from the man himself as to what his personal goals are.:/
is it right to assume from his silence that he doesn't really care too much? is happy to let things carry on in the manner they have been?
what exactly is the problem with releasing new material?
is it getting it recorded? is it label involvement & the bitter rancour it stirs in axl? is it axl's lack of confidence/indecision?
like has been mentioned in the prev two posts there is a host of cracker covers GnR could release as an EP over itunes next week & gain a bit of momentum & goodwill w/o axl having to expose himself too much..
what did axl mean exactly when he said CD wasthe album that was able to be pushed thru 'the red tape'? is there a host of legal hurdles in the way before they can release new material?
as always, there are hundreds of options availible to axl/GnR to get a bit of goodwill/momentum going again for the b(r)and but it's really just more of nothing happening until they get on stage @ RiR..
