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Re: BP's top kill effort fails to plug Gulf oil leak
Impeachment for what? This is the PRIVATE SECTOR fucking up, not the government.
Now the same people who screamed "Socialism" when government stepped in to fix capitalism run amuck are screaming for Obama's head because they don't feel he is doing enough.
I've gotta ask: Which one is it?
Amen brother. A-MEN
*standing ovation*
Re: BP's top kill effort fails to plug Gulf oil leak
James Lofton wrote:mickronson wrote:Why dont I see someone hanging by their neck over this yet?
Because Mr. Hope and Change is presiding over the disaster.
If Reagan, Bush, or even Clinton had handled it like this, there would already be impeachment proceedings underway.
.Impeachment for what? This is the PRIVATE SECTOR fucking up, not the government.
Now the same people who screamed "Socialism" when government stepped in to fix capitalism run amuck are screaming for Obama's head because they don't feel he is doing enough.
I've gotta ask: Which one is it?
Thats a two way street. The same people wanting Bush tarred and feathered over the Katrina fiasco are fine and dandy with the current handling of this crisis, unless it was happening on Bush's watch of course.
There would be riots in the streets right now if he was in office handling the situation like this.
Obama has had more financial contributions from BP than any other president, so I'm not really all that surprised by how it's going down. He's bought and paid for and will do what they want him to do, which is nothing.
Welcome to the forum freak. 
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Re: BP's top kill effort fails to plug Gulf oil leak
Katrina is way different James. Katrina was costing human lives, 1,836 of them actually. Nearly 2,000 Americans died in that hurricane - how many have died because of the oil spill? None?
I understand that it's a tragedy but it's not hurting US citizens in any way comparable to the carnage Katrina caused.
Re: BP's top kill effort fails to plug Gulf oil leak
Katrina is way different James. Katrina was costing human lives, 1,836 of them actually. Nearly 2,000 Americans died in that hurricane - how many have died because of the oil spill? None?
I understand that it's a tragedy but it's not hurting US citizens in any way comparable to the carnage Katrina caused.
Obviously the loss of life in both cases are different, but they are both major disasters threatening several of our industries and could literally destroy the economy down there which could start a chain reaction.
I find it interesting that so few want government intervention in such a catastrophe. People prefer the company who brought this on in the first place and who have bought off these same politicians to act like they're fixing it.
While I hope it is fixed as quickly as possible, a stance such as that deserves for it to keep spilling until people realize it's not a picnic where BP should be in full control of the situation. It'll be too late by then but at least it will prove a point.
"Socialism" has nothing to do with this disaster. That's just a partisan debate tactic so all parties involved can keep the status quo going.
Daddy, did you plug the hole yet?
No he didn't, but he cashed a few sweet checks for ya so just have some patience while the check writers keep this bullshit going for God knows how long and gas rises to five or six bucks a gallon.
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Re: BP's top kill effort fails to plug Gulf oil leak
GRAND ISLE, Louisiana (AP) '” BP reported some oil was flowing up a pipe Friday from a cap it wrestled onto its broken Gulf of Mexico well but crude still spewed and it was unclear how much could be captured in the latest bid to tame the worst U.S. oil spill.
President Obama was set to visit the Louisiana coast Friday, his second trip in a week and the third since the disaster unfolded following an April 20 oil rig explosion.
The government's point man for the crisis, Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, said the cap's installation atop a severed pipe late Thursday was a positive development but it was too early to tell if it would work. The funnel-like lid is designed to channel oil for pumping to a surface tanker.
"Even if successful, this is only a temporary and partial fix and we must continue our aggressive response operations at the source, on the surface and along the Gulf's precious coastline," Allen said in a statement.
BP's Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said it will be later in the day before they know how much is being captured.
"There is flow coming up the pipe. Just now, I don't know the exact rate," Suttles said on NBC television.
Robots a mile beneath the Gulf positioned the lid over the main pipe on the leaking well Thursday night. Live video footage, though, showed that the oil seemed unimpeded.
To put the cap in place, BP had to slice off the pipe with giant shears after a diamond-edged saw became stuck.
Suttles said some of the oil still pouring out came from vents deliberately placed to keep icelike crystals from forming that could block the funnel. BP will try to close those four vents in succession and reduce the spill, he said.
If the idea fails '” like every other attempt to control the six-week-old leak '” the best chance is probably a relief well, which is at least two months away. The well has spit out between 21 million gallons (80 million liters) and 46 million gallons (174 million liters) of oil since a rig exploded on April 20 about 50 miles from the Louisiana coast, killing 11 workers. BP was leasing the rig and is responsible to fix and clean up the spill.
In oil-soaked Grand Isle, Jason French might as well have painted a bulls-eye on his back. His mission was to be BP's representative at a meeting for 50 or so residents who had gathered at a church to vent.
"We are all angry and frustrated," he said. "Feel free tonight to let me see that anger. Direct it at me, direct it at BP, but I want to assure you, the folks in this community, that we are working hard to remedy the situation."
Residents weren't buying it.
"Sorry doesn't pay the bills," said Susan Felio Price, a longtime resident.
"Through the negligence of BP we now find ourselves trying to roller-skate up a mountain," she said. "We're growing really weary. We're tired. We're sick and tired of being sick and tired. Someone's got to help us get to the top of that mountain."
President Obama shared some of that anger ahead of his Gulf visit. He told CNN's Larry King that he was frustrated and used his strongest language in assailing BP.
"I am furious at this entire situation because this is an example where somebody didn't think through the consequences of their actions," Obama said. "This is imperiling an entire way of life and an entire region for potentially years."
Meanwhile, newly disclosed internal Coast Guard documents from the day after the explosion aboard the Deepwater Horizon rig indicated that U.S. officials were warning of a leak of 336,000 gallons (1.3 million liters) per day of crude from the well in the event of a complete blowout.
The volume turned out to be much closer to that figure than the 42,000 gallons (159,000 liters) per day that BP first estimated. Weeks later that was revised to 210,000 gallons (795,000 liters). Now, an estimated 500,000 gallons (190,000 liters) to 1 million gallons (3.8 million liters) of crude is believed to be leaking daily.
The Center for Public Integrity, which initially reported the Coast Guard logs, said it obtained them from Rep. Darrell Issa, ranking Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
The logs also showed early in the disaster that remote underwater robots were unable to activate the rig's blowout preventer, which was supposed to shut off the flow from the well in the event of such a catastrophic failure.
The damage to the environment was chilling on East Grand Terre Island along the Louisiana coast, where workers found birds coated in thick, black goo. Images shot by an Associated Press photographer show Brown pelicans drenched in thick oil, struggling and flailing in the surf.
BP CEO Tony Hayward promised that the company would clean up every drop of oil and "restore the shoreline to its original state."
"BP will be here for a very long time. We realize this is just the beginning," he said.
Those on Grand Isle seemed less than convinced by BP's assurances.
"We want you to feel what we feel," said Leoda Bladsacker, a member of the town's council, as her voice trembled. "We're not going to be OK for a long, long time."
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Re: BP's top kill effort fails to plug Gulf oil leak
I wanted to see him hang, but I had to do it myself 
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Thats a two way street. The same people wanting Bush tarred and feathered over the Katrina fiasco are fine and dandy with the current handling of this crisis, unless it was happening on Bush's watch of course.
There would be riots in the streets right now if he was in office handling the situation like this.
Obama has had more financial contributions from BP than any other president, so I'm not really all that surprised by how it's going down. He's bought and paid for and will do what they want him to do, which is nothing.
Welcome to the forum freak.
I keep hearing the Katrina comparison but I don't see it. Katrina was a failure of the State and Federal governments to prepare and react to a natural disaster. This is a royal fuck up by private industry (capitalism run riot.) While the government should be doing everything they can to expedite a solution, it's simply not their job to be an expert on this; it's BP's job.
Who BP contributes to is irrelevant imo. If you were to argue that they were awarded no bid contracts by Obama's pals for instance (an example) I'd accept that argument. But what are you implying? That because BP donated huge sums of moola that Obama won't put on a scuba suit and fix the patch himself until day 60?
Thanks, NA beer please.
Re: BP's top kill effort fails to plug Gulf oil leak
The video of that pelican is one of the saddest sights.
(Not sure we needed a new thread for this though)
Fucking sickening man. The tarballs are just now rolling up to N. Florida now. If they hit the gulf coast where I live it will simply be devastating (not implying in anyway it's not up there, just to see it in my backyard.)
An hour south of me is Sarasota. The sand there is incredibly soft, it feels like sugar under your feet. It is one of the most beautiful and unique beaches in the world. To think of that spot with oil coming up on shore is just a shame.
