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Re: Axl fires back at Irv with lawsuit
Nah, this situation is too hot for Slash to open his mouth.
He's not Nikki Sixx. Nikki can say something, walk away, no biggie.
Why would Slash say ANYTHING that might be misconstrued or ANOTHER "let's open up an old can of worms"?
Slash should've just played dumb, and/or said 'no comment'.
Slash has an album out. He's getting some mileage off Axl's coat tails, thats all. No big deal, just slash milking GNR again.
Re: Axl fires back at Irv with lawsuit
I don't think its Slash milking anything for his album. It was one of thse, I don't care (but I really, really, really do care) kind of things. I think it was a very subtle dig.
I think it was totally personal and had little to nothing to do with his album.
Re: Axl fires back at Irv with lawsuit
I think this is interesting as well. I hope this one actually plays out in court.
It won't....the attorney fees alone outweigh the value of both claims. Unfortunately, unless Axl has some pocket aces, Irving has all the chips (simply more money and assets) and can outlast Axl in a financial ego battle. It's Texas Hold'em.
We will never know the outcome but my best guess is that it settles. We will not know who caved.:/
Re: Axl fires back at Irv with lawsuit
Axlin08 wrote:Nah, this situation is too hot for Slash to open his mouth.
He's not Nikki Sixx. Nikki can say something, walk away, no biggie.
Why would Slash say ANYTHING that might be misconstrued or ANOTHER "let's open up an old can of worms"?
Slash should've just played dumb, and/or said 'no comment'.
I agree. In a way, Slash DID say "no comment", but in another way he said a lot more than that. To say he understands Azoff's case but doesn't know where Axl is coming from doesn't make much sense to me. It seems pretty obvious to anyone, even if they don't know the details, that Axl doesn't agree with Azoff thus the need for a countersuit. So obviously he feels Azoff doesn't deserve any commissions. Is that so hard to understand?
I'm willing to give Slash a pass though because his answer may have been taken out of context. You never know with these off the cuff interviews. But that answer doesn't jive with me.
agree....Slash's answer was just ignorant. Just say no comment. It's obvious he did not read Axl's brief.
Re: Axl fires back at Irv with lawsuit
You are assuming Axl is right in all of this... Lets let a judge decide? lol I know, it was a crazy idea on a gnr forum.
I personally think he is playing that whole Bailey 'oh I`m so hurt' bullshit very strategically.. sorry dude, you are 50 nearly, get over it. We all had shit happen.
Kind of like Slash assuming Azoff's right.
I don't think any of us are assuming Axl's right. Somethings are interesting "claims". Others are just WAY out there, and we've said so. The Activision claim, the streaming claim... fuck off... no chance in hell he gets anywhere with that shit. That's just compounding as much as he can think of in the launching of a countersuit.
I don't think its Slash milking anything for his album. It was one of thse, I don't care (but I really, really, really do care) kind of things. I think it was a very subtle dig.
I think it was totally personal and had little to nothing to do with his album.
I completely agree 100%. That's how it came across to me.
At least Axl's stayed consistent in his "fuck that guy" shtick, barring the controversy of the "I love the guy" statement...
Slash has this bad habit of taking passive-aggressive digs, and following it up with "he's a great frontman".
In other words, he's a brilliant artist... but a dick as a human being... JUST SAY IT 
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Re: Axl fires back at Irv with lawsuit
buzzsaw wrote:I think this is interesting as well. I hope this one actually plays out in court.
It won't....the attorney fees alone outweigh the value of both claims. Unfortunately, unless Axl has some pocket aces, Irving has all the chips (simply more money and assets) and can outlast Axl in a financial ego battle.
That's true rationally, but the thing is at the end of the day Azoff has a business empire to run, and every day he spends dealing with legal shit fucks with that, and eventually it might just make more commercial sense to move on with life.
That's also true of Axl of course too, but while Azoff has more money (I assume), he may not have the same willingness to fuck himself over to prove the point. It makes no sense for either to fight this, but IF Axl is willing to loose everything on earth just to get called by the right name and so on, and damn both their businesses to hell in the process, the question is, who comes to their senses first? Azoff has a lot else going on, and while that makes him stronger in that he doesn't *need* to win this, it also could make him buckle first too if the law suit gets completely irrational.
As for the copyright claims, I'm going to disagree with you all and say that, without having had the benifit of seeing his publishing and recording contracts, I think there's a very strong possibility Axl would have some basis to complain about the activision useage, and about the streaming issue as well.
But I guess his point is not that Azoff is responsible for any infringment from the game, but that rather (according to axl) he made false representations that he'd use his power to help while in his role as manager, and then spent his time making money elsewhere, perusing a seperate agenda and so on, and this demonstrates further that he's breached his fundicary duties as a manger and shouldn't be paid anything.
Re: Axl fires back at Irv with lawsuit
The album is still being streamed on Myspace, which would tell me Axl does know and is letting it happen.
And tbh, during the first year of the album's release, the album's streaming had nearly the exact amount of hits as the album sold. I don't think they lost anything with it. It was probably the most effective promotion the album had
i dont think u can count hits and sales the same, cause i for instance listened to each song about 10 times.
so it isn't like one person per song listened. so those numbers are skewered
i bet it cost them some sales no doubt. big thing the album had going for it was the curiosity factor. so a lot of people im sure heard it on Myspace and passed whereas if they were out and saw it, they may have impulsed bought it.
Re: Axl fires back at Irv with lawsuit
Maybe it's a problem with all managers.
It doesn't mean Axl got a "problem". It means he wanna do things a specific way. This obviously crashes with how managers want to do things.
It doesn't simply mean the managers are right, and Axl is wrong just because he falls out of favour with them.
managers normally keep their eye on the money
Axl is more about the integrity etc
managers dont give a fuck about intergrity.
thus the conflict.
Re: Axl fires back at Irv with lawsuit
You are assuming Axl is right in all of this... Lets let a judge decide? lol I know, it was a crazy idea on a gnr forum.
I personally think he is playing that whole Bailey 'oh I`m so hurt' bullshit very strategically.. sorry dude, you are 50 nearly, get over it. We all had shit happen.
i doubt, and hope, you didn't have the shit happen to you that happened to axl.
it's completely unfair to dismiss his psychological scars as playing upon it in court. it's quite apparent at this stage axl's problems are a lot more insurmountable than the typical fruedian/oedipus bullshit most normal people experience, and even most people never really come to terms with it. you factor in the insane media coverage than has been intruding into his life since 1988 & i think you've proper justification for the guy being a little more fucked up than the rest of us, no matter what age he is.
