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Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
I tend to believe that CD is BB's best selling product, since it was a BB exclusive and a long-awaited album by a huge brand. My only problem is that they don't list the numbers, just the rankings.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
You see that as being positive? When's the last time you went to BB to buy a CD? When's the last time any of your friends or family went to BB to buy a CD? Exactly.
I'd also like to see proof of it being their best selling CD. I'm not taking your word for it.
I buy all my cd's at Best Buy....literally. 
Not sure that has anything to do with Chinese's fate. 
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
Axlin08 wrote:You called Buzz a dick, simply because he asked a question.
No, the "dick" remark (while spoken in a joking manner) was because he would not take AtariLegend's word for it.
Why would he lie? But I do agree that it was unnecessary and I apologize to buzzsaw if he find/found it offensive. It's been changed.
I've also had enough with the Axlite thing. Saying that I like piss raining down on my forehead the last time was plenty enough.
And in the end... I was just trying to point out that Best Buy lists Chinese Democracy as their best selling CD. Nothing more.
If their website do not showcase their information properly is neither my problem or fault.
I agree. Axlin08, the spirited debate is fine, but the constant put down of "Axlite" for people who think a little different from you is just too condescending and old. I am not starting an argument, but the Axlite thing bugs me too. We have a good board and people shouldn't place labels on each other here. We all seem to have fairly realistic attitudes towards the overall Gnr situation.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
The album is a complete failure. This is fact.
Anything arguing different at this point comes across as fanboy-ism and desperate. Or downright stupidity.
It's also NOT BB's best selling music item. Handsome is right, that it is not his fault that is what is listed. I also should've apologized awhile back for that piss/forehead comment. It was sarcasm, that hit a little bit too raw. I'm sorry.
I do not call people Axlites for having a different opinion than me. I call people Axlites when their absurd defense of the "success" of the album, comes across like a lunatic fringe.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
Define failure..... 
The only reason it can be perceived as failure is the expectations behind it. Gold isn't failure. However, when you see it was expected to go multi platinum here, gold certainly reeks of lukewarm success.
Best Buy clearly made a mistake buying so many upfront copies, and that falls on them. However, they bought into the forum hype like everyone else did. Once D day arrived and even nutswingers who said it was gonna destroy Contraband for years started saying "sales don't matter", it was obvious that all parties involved were between a rock and a hard place.
The album's buzz out of the gates(what little there was) was immediately destroyed. This album should have went on sale in its second week of release, and stayed on sale until every last copy was gone.
Best Buy would have had better luck trying to sell a bottle of goat piss for 200 bucks than selling Chinese Democracy for $15.99 in December 2008. Trying to sell LPs that had been plucked from ground zero of a nuclear blast didn't help their cause either.
They didn't react to the facts on the ground, so now they're stuck with almost a million copies.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
The album was hyped as the most anticipated rock album ever made...
It did numbers that reflected the interest in a reunited Frankie Goes To Hollywood.
That's what I define as a 'business' failure. I'm sure there's 1,000,000+ out there that have their own too.
On an artistic level... complete success. It's one of the butt-ichers of this entire saga
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
Define failure.....
The only reason it can be perceived as failure is the expectations behind it. Gold isn't failure. However, when you see it was expected to go multi platinum here, gold certainly reeks of lukewarm success.
Best Buy clearly made a mistake buying so many upfront copies, and that falls on them. However, they bought into the forum hype like everyone else did. Once D day arrived and even nutswingers who said it was gonna destroy Contraband for years started saying "sales don't matter", it was obvious that all parties involved were between a rock and a hard place.
The album's buzz out of the gates(what little there was) was immediately destroyed. This album should have went on sale in its second week of release, and stayed on sale until every last copy was gone.
Best Buy would have had better luck trying to sell a bottle of goat piss for 200 bucks than selling Chinese Democracy for $15.99 in December 2008. Trying to sell LPs that had been plucked from ground zero of a nuclear blast didn't help their cause either.
They didn't react to the facts on the ground, so now they're stuck with almost a million copies.
Good thoughts, James.
Gold is indeed not nessesarily a failure. For every album in the store you got to buy, there's 100 others you never even heard of. For every album in the store, there's probably 500 albums not even sold there that have people trying to start or keep their careers going. Made up numbers, of course, but the amount of music produced is STAGGERING.
But Chinese's launch wasn't what we expected, but it seems like it didn't have anywhere else to go based on what was and wasn't happening. The ingrediants add up to what we got.
Failure after a hard push is one thing ("wow, wild ride"), lukewarm with no push is just dissapointing ("what happened?").
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
I call people Axlites when their absurd defense of the "success" of the album, comes across like a lunatic fringe.
Well, I didn't. I just pointed to their website in reference to what AtariLegend claimed.
That's it.
I love the record and that's good enough for me. There's no need to obsess about sales, having agendas or believing in any secret conspiracies on my part.
I'm sorry that most people can't feel the same way.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
The album was hyped as the most anticipated rock album ever made...
Most anticipated album for who? The guy who wrote that? The average person? I doubt it. I really don't know how much you were "realistically" expecting this album to sell from the get go. I just don't buy the theory that the world was waiting for the next Guns N' Roses album, so that equates it to being a failure.
I'm not getting into another "was it successful debate." No one wins. My thoughts are clear. I see it as a success. Especially in this musical climate and how it was rolled out and handled (including by Axl) since its conception.
