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Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
Epic Fail from day 1
Totally. We all said it from the get... WAL-MART.
That was the better deal. Regardless of how lucrative BB's was, or replacing Riad on the album with something else to avoid the PA sticker...
Wal-Mart knows how to move product. They know how to move these albums, and CD would've been coddled by them, and they would've made sales be ALOT more, even with an inactive GN'R.
Perfect example...
This September, Foreigner is releasing an exclusive new album at Wal-Mart, that's gonna be a 3-disc set. Disc 1 - the new album. Disc 2 - classic hits, redone with new vocalist Kelly Hansen. Disc 3 - DVD featuring live performances.
How much will this be? $11.99. For all of that - $11.99, and Wal-Mart is gonna pimp the shit out of it.
This would've been a dream release for CD, and not that unfeasible. You release CD like this, with Disc 1 - the album with alternate track to replace Riad. Disc 2 - GN'R classic (what they'd play on tour) remixed and redone by the new band, as a bridge to a new era. Disc 3 - DVD featuring various live performances spanning 2001 to 2007, and an intro by Axl himself explaning the album's evolution and the band's lineup changes.
How much? $11.99. Would've been brilliant for this era's GN'R, and sold like hot cakes, and Wal-Mart would STILL be pushing it.
Garth Brooks was another one. Released a 3-disc Greatest Hits set a couple years ago. Discs 1 & 2, were a double-disc of greatest hits, and Disc 3, was a DVD featuring ALL of his music videos, including new ones. How much? $11.99. Sold like gangbusters.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
mickronson wrote:Epic Fail from day 1
Totally. We all said it from the get... WAL-MART.
That was the better deal. Regardless of how lucrative BB's was, or replacing Riad on the album with something else to avoid the PA sticker...
Wal-Mart knows how to move product. They know how to move these albums, and CD would've been coddled by them, and they would've made sales be ALOT more, even with an inactive GN'R.
Perfect example...
This September, Foreigner is releasing an exclusive new album at Wal-Mart, that's gonna be a 3-disc set. Disc 1 - the new album. Disc 2 - classic hits, redone with new vocalist Kelly Hansen. Disc 3 - DVD featuring live performances.
How much will this be? $11.99. For all of that - $11.99, and Wal-Mart is gonna pimp the shit out of it.
This would've been a dream release for CD, and not that unfeasible. You release CD like this, with Disc 1 - the album with alternate track to replace Riad. Disc 2 - GN'R classic (what they'd play on tour) remixed and redone by the new band, as a bridge to a new era. Disc 3 - DVD featuring various live performances spanning 2001 to 2007, and an intro by Axl himself explaning the album's evolution and the band's lineup changes.
How much? $11.99. Would've been brilliant for this era's GN'R, and sold like hot cakes, and Wal-Mart would STILL be pushing it.
Garth Brooks was another one. Released a 3-disc Greatest Hits set a couple years ago. Discs 1 & 2, were a double-disc of greatest hits, and Disc 3, was a DVD featuring ALL of his music videos, including new ones. How much? $11.99. Sold like gangbusters.
A set like you mentioned or something similar was absolutely needed for this album ti have any chance at succeeding. But Axl didn't care.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
And the thing is, what pisses me off most... IT'S NOT ASKING MUCH. It's not unreasonable.
Even if they didn't have Robin there to re-record studio remixes of the old songs, Ron & Richard could've done double duty, or DJ could've been brought in earlier than expected. The guy is a session guitarist anyways.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
Fuck the hits. That wasn't needed. If he truly had any vision like claimed years ago, he would have unloaded an entire set instead of an album made up of glossed up leaks. It went from a trilogy to a double to one album. He could have blew his entire load with one shot, shocked the world, been the talk of the town, but instead has a stale album in stores no one buys and is sitting on a 10 year old album at home that no one but a few thousand nerds care about.
Smart move.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
Good point. Not to mention it isn't like GN'R doesn't have a history of big moves like double albums.
A double or triple album, still at that $11.99 price tag would've been a mega moment for a potential comeback.
But it's unrealistic.
Unlike the above mentioned idea. Doing the remixes of the hits, isn't giving anything away, but fattens the package nicely, and appeals to BOTH new and old fans. Old diehards want to hear the remixes, and new fans have a technical greatest hits to accompany their new album purchase, to entice them to go after a 'new Guns' release.
The brilliance of the new album + hit remixes + DVD, is they are giving you it all, yet at the same time holding back, to do it all over again in another couple of years, when they tap the vault.
Either way, if Axl is serious about this new Guns thing, this move needs to be made with CD II.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
What he should have done is released CD I, CD II, CD III. All on the same day a la Illusions. He should have one upped himself and I don't care if each disc was plagued with filler it would be such a bold and great move that it would definitely have gotten noticed. Also when you produce three albums worth after 14 years instead of one people may be less inclined to say it wasn't worth it. Three albums worth effectively would have matched the size of the Old GN'R backcatalogue.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
i agree that a trilogy could have been a big deal when the music was relevant but it's dated music no matter how many albums there are. we know what he got and that is a shit load of money independent of sales. wal mart would have quadrupled cd sales but that would have meant less money for all of the hands in the cookie jar. we all talk about the leaks and how they're old and played out. imagine how axl feels. he's listened to them hundreds of times more than we all have while working on them in the studio. it is very likely that he was done with cd by '03 and was just trying to get rid of it in the most economical way possible. best buy may also have a deal lined up with gnr for a second and maybe even a third album. we all know better than to hold our breath for anything but if you had 50 songs and most of them where a decade plus old and a handful were fresh and sounded great, would you release a trilogy and risk all of them flopping together if you owed the label two more albums? he did say "same bat time, same bat channel" when asked about a follow up album in the chat sessions. we'll have to wait and see.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
I just don't think a trilogy would've realistically worked with sales.
I think it'd been more of a bomb. How many casuals would've honestly went out and bought three seperately priced albums? It would've been more of a disaster imo.
Re: Now on sale for $7.99 at Best Buy
I went into ANOTHER Best Buy today and it was the same story all over again. No signs or indications of the $7.99 pricetag on CD. They were all marked $11.99 and they weren't placed in any special section or anything. Instead of dedicating an endcap to Guns N' Roses, featuring BEST BUY EXCLUSIVE Chinese Democracy, they had an endcap of Van Halen, featuring the debut from Chickenfoot.
Again, this is only 2 stores I've seen this in, but I'm 2 for 2 so far. It just seems like they're not even trying. I could understand being pissed at Axl/the band/management for not pulling their weight, but what good does it do if Best Buy doesn't try to push it themselves? Especially when it's on sale in their weekly ad. Two wrongs don't make a right in this situation.
