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Re: Frank played with Tool last night
Once again, I can't help but to disagree with you on the GN'R overall.
A GN'R reunion would be like a phoenix rising from the ashes. Sure, they wouldn't rule the world, but they'd at least do Van Halen w/ Roth numbers, and garner as much interest.
Nobody gives a fuck about new Guns.
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Re: Frank played with Tool last night
RS's comment when discussing Frank is concrete proof of why the current line up isn't marketable, and I've always thought that played a role in how the album was rolled out.
We're lucky we even got the damn thing.
Yeah..although it's also chicken and the egg I think....like if frank marketed himself more as the GNR drummer, and GNR was active, then stuff like RS would pick up on it. Although the impression is not helped by there being two drummers associated with the band, the band being inactive at least in public, and most of the band doing high profile solo stuff. Does make him look more like a session player than someone locked into a band.
Axl's sort of in a tough spot in one sence. As realisticly he needs players at a professional level of skill, and he'd presumably want to maintain control of GNR, and, for whatever reason, the band doesn't tend to be active full time in the way a band like metallica seems to be, which sort of limits his options to people from session backgrounds.
I like frank though. He has the right touch for GNR to me. While brain is a kickass technical drummer, it never seemed to me like he had the right approach to the older songs, stuff like "You could be mine" just never sounded quite right to me.
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Re: Frank played with Tool last night
Nobody gives a fuck about new Guns.
That might be how it's gone down, but I don't think it has to be that way.
If the band was more public, ie, put out new music more frequently, worked the media, published music in more films, and was able to maintain one line up for long enough for people to associate that sound with those people, they could become quite relevant I feel. At the end of the day, Axl Rose is a famous name, and he's a talented songwriter, all it would really take is one song to really catch off and he could become just as 'relevant' as most rock artists of today. Of course, after the way the chinese democracy release was handled, I don't anticipate that happening - but i'm just saying the public reaction - in my opinion - is a result of how it's all happened and not a reflection on the music itself.
I mean sure old guns will always be something people would go nuts over. So i'm not trying to say the new band would excede that, but I do think that WHEN new-gnr has played along with the media, there was a bit of interest, back in 06 there were articles, the NYC shows got a bit of attention, rollingstone even reviewed the leaks as an unofficial release....people do care.....but what can they do to care at the moment? What can they write? The only article possible is the "where's gnr gone?" article that would ask why there was no tour, limited interviews etc, and that's not something you can write over and over.
All i'm saying is, while i'm not waiting for jesus and the second comming etc, I will say that the "no one cares about GNR" is mostly the result of the way things have been done, in my opinion most of the 'relevance' in music is generated by the media anyway, we're sheep, and given GNR has strong talent underlying it, the day they choose to play the game and make people care, is the day people begin to care again. Maybe not on the level of the old band, but people could be interested. Unfortunately the last 10 years or more have been surrounded by negative events for GNR and the painting of axl as wierd...and that's not helping it happen.
Re: Frank played with Tool last night
Exactly, nobody cares about new Guns in part because they've been given no reason to. The same thing would happen if GNR announced a reunion and then nobody said anything and they made no appearances for 2 years. Initially people would be excited but if nothing happens afterwards the excitement would quickly die down.
Obviously a reunion would garner interest if they went full speed ahead with it. A tour with the new band would do the same, although at a smaller level. But it's all about following through with things. Why would you expect people to be clamoring for a band that dropped an album in November and have done little to nothing since?
