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faldor
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Re: Bumblefoot interview - Brazilian Guitar Player Mag

faldor wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

Axlin08 is right. Axl was ragging on MJ in mag articles back in the late 80s. Said he didn't like his music, but thought the bass on Billie Jean(or was it another song?) was cool.

I'd be willing to bet Mr. Slugworth an everlasting gobstopper that Axl was moonwalking in 82 though.

You're probably right.  I have a hard time believing anyone didn't at least respect Michael's musical genius at some point in their lives.  People change though.  I loved Michael Jackson's music as a kid but really didn't give it much of a thought the last 15 years or so.  The past few days that's about all I've been listening to.  Just because Axl may have made some negative comments about Michael back in the 80's doesn't mean he should be vilified.  I admire Howard Stern too but he's never been a fan of Michael's.  That's a personal opinion/choice.  We're all entitled.

Axlin16
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Re: Bumblefoot interview - Brazilian Guitar Player Mag

Axlin16 wrote:

Yeah, but when you say you cried tears of ANGER simply because the lead guitarist in your band collaborated with him... that's strong words. And like gnfnraxl, I believe it was out of pure jealousy. Especially during the UYI period, I think Axl wanted to be the biggest male singer in the world - and he wasn't. In his mind, I think he manifested how "street" he was, even when he was running around in that red French commander jacket (or whatever nationality it was), playing November Rain, and yet he had the brass to think MJ was 'product'. That was Kurt Cobain's biggest issue with the guy is how commercial he was, and yet convinced he was some street hard rocker. Yet, in Cobain's case, it was the pot calling the kettle black.

For whatever reason Axl didn't like Jackson, so he created this idea in his head that EVERYONE in the band agreed with him. So then Slash goes and does what he does, and in Axl's mind it was a betrayal.

I just find it incredibly amazing the whole thing. In reality, Axl Rose should've kissed the stars if Michael Jackson would've invited to sit down for dinner. Axl Rose, was Taime Downe compared to Michael fuckin' Jackson.

monkeychow
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Re: Bumblefoot interview - Brazilian Guitar Player Mag

monkeychow wrote:

I personally really enjoyed Slash's colaboration with MJ and thought it was inspirtational.

But I can also see ways it could have been frustrating to Axl. If he himself was having trouble cooerating with Slash, then Slash doing a high profile peformance of this nature, especially one that gets out some of slash's best work, would rub a person the wrong way. Also, MJ had a very different public image to what GNR had and cultivated and i can imagine many hard rock fans not responding well to it.

I'm not saying axl was right but its a throwaway line 20 years ago....

Olorin
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Re: Bumblefoot interview - Brazilian Guitar Player Mag

Olorin wrote:

Axl made that remark about things starting to "go bad" between Slash and him during their first show opening for The Cult, because of Slash " runnin’ right out front on the ego ramp for the whole show".

I found that really strange, Slash's stage presense helped drag GN'R to the top, why would he resent it?

James
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Re: Bumblefoot interview - Brazilian Guitar Player Mag

James wrote:

I can see it from Axl's point of view as well though. Slash was diluting the product. GNR were massive then, almost too massive. The public was interested in the entire band. Slash doing high profile work with MJ, Kravitz, Cooper,etc. shifted the focus from GNR to basically Slash presenting himself as a sort of icon separate from the GNR entity. In hindsight, this was the beginning of the "Slash brand" being cemented in pop culture.

I don't even have anything against what Axl and his hardcore swingers label "media whoring",  but you can see why he had issues with it. Before someone brings up Axl's solo contributions to Henley, Steve Jones, and the Dead, Jail, or Rock N Roll video, those were very low key contributions and he did not promote them.

Axl S
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Re: Bumblefoot interview - Brazilian Guitar Player Mag

Axl S wrote:
James Lofton wrote:

I can see it from Axl's point of view as well though. Slash was diluting the product. GNR were massive then, almost too massive. The public was interested in the entire band. Slash doing high profile work with MJ, Kravitz, Cooper,etc. shifted the focus from GNR to basically Slash presenting himself as a sort of icon separate from the GNR entity. In hindsight, this was the beginning of the "Slash brand" being cemented in pop culture.

I don't even have anything against what Axl and his hardcore swingers label "media whoring",  but you can see why he had issues with it. Before someone brings up Axl's solo contributions to Henley, Steve Jones, and the Dead, Jail, or Rock N Roll video, those were very low key contributions and he did not promote them.

This is quite an interesting viewpoint. Perhaps the animosity between Axl and Slash stemmed from Axl wanting to promote GN'R as a whole band with him being the spokesman for them as he was the frontman and was annoyed by Slash just going around and as you said "diluting" and essentially almost making himself bigger than the band itself.

faldor
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Re: Bumblefoot interview - Brazilian Guitar Player Mag

faldor wrote:

Well said monkeychow and James.  That's sort of what I was getting at, but you both said it much better.  I'm sure there are thousands of people who have made disparaging remarks about Michael Jackson over the last 30 years, Axl is far from the only one.  IF he had come out the day Michael died and made these comments, that would be in poor taste.  But to bring up a comment from 20 years ago and use that to say he was wrong is a bit of a stretch.

Axlin16
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Re: Bumblefoot interview - Brazilian Guitar Player Mag

Axlin16 wrote:

Yeah, but it bothered me in 1992. The only reason I brought it up was because of Jackson's death. It's ate at me for years, and the further interview where he discussed Slash always bothered me to.

If we were talking about Prince dying, i'd never even mentioned it.

faldor
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Re: Bumblefoot interview - Brazilian Guitar Player Mag

faldor wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

Yeah, but it bothered me in 1992. The only reason I brought it up was because of Jackson's death. It's ate at me for years, and the further interview where he discussed Slash always bothered me to.

If we were talking about Prince dying, i'd never even mentioned it.

Fair enough, I honestly didn't even know of the comments so obviously it didn't strike a nerve with me.  I'm sure Axl has said quite a few things that if I really sat down and dissected that I don't agree with but I don't live by the book of Axl in the respect that I don't share his ideas.  He thinks Slash is a cancer.  I don't necessarily agree with that, but who am I to question him?  He's been through a lot more with the man than I have.  Sorry to bring that subject up, I don't mean to rehash it, just trying to make a point.

Axlin16
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Re: Bumblefoot interview - Brazilian Guitar Player Mag

Axlin16 wrote:

I agree.

The man's entitled to his opinion. He believes it, and that makes it just as valid as anyone's else's opinion.

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