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- monkeychow
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Re: Why didn't the label support Chinese Democracy?
Yeah, not unloading a video with the first single was a massive mistake. They were basically begging for it to fail.
Yeah i got to say, people have been interested in axl's new GNR at each stage of his reboot, if only to be going "look the madman kicked out everyone and is doing it alone" - but what i'm trying to say is negative publicity like that could have been handled better - like if there was a kickass video showing off the new guys and the shredding and stuff, and axl in his classic rock god kinda look from the 07 tour, i think people would have responded to it. Not saying it would dominate or anything, but I can see some casual fans comming back on board.
Re: Why didn't the label support Chinese Democracy?
Remember when Axl was on Eddie Trunk and said they were in China for 3 months.......
Axl slipped and said something about filiming or taping then he caught himself...... Do u think they did a CD video or at least started on one?
There's been rumors for years about way back them starting on work to do videos for CD, Better, Catcher, Madagascar...
I'm sure at least some principle photography started to get done, as well as ideas and the scope of what they wanted to do, but probably not more than that due to lack of funds.
They also didn't just suddenly decide CD & Better would be the singles. Those are the only ones that I believe completed videos exist, in multiple versions, and have for years. Axl refuses to release them.
- tejastech08
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Re: Why didn't the label support Chinese Democracy?
I'd say the label gave plenty of support, to the tune of 10 years and $13 million.
- tejastech08
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Re: Why didn't the label support Chinese Democracy?
Well if a lawsuit is in the works, it'll be BB vs. UMG.
And if UMG loses, i'm sure they would turn around and sue the cornrowed one.
For some reason I read "cornholed one" when I first looked at this post.
Re: Why didn't the label support Chinese Democracy?
I'm pretty sure Axl spent every dime they gave him in the 14 studios he used to record the album.
Axlin08 wrote:Well if a lawsuit is in the works, it'll be BB vs. UMG.
And if UMG loses, i'm sure they would turn around and sue the cornrowed one.
For some reason I read "cornholed one" when I first looked at this post.
He's a 'cornhole' too.
- tejastech08
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Re: Why didn't the label support Chinese Democracy?
I'm pretty sure Axl spent every dime they gave him in the 14 studios he used to record the album.
tejastech08 wrote:Axlin08 wrote:Well if a lawsuit is in the works, it'll be BB vs. UMG.
And if UMG loses, i'm sure they would turn around and sue the cornrowed one.
For some reason I read "cornholed one" when I first looked at this post.
He's a 'cornhole' too.
That's true. :haha:
Re: Why didn't the label support Chinese Democracy?
-D- wrote:Remember when Axl was on Eddie Trunk and said they were in China for 3 months.......
Axl slipped and said something about filiming or taping then he caught himself...... Do u think they did a CD video or at least started on one?
There's been rumors for years about way back them starting on work to do videos for CD, Better, Catcher, Madagascar...
I'm sure at least some principle photography started to get done, as well as ideas and the scope of what they wanted to do, but probably not more than that due to lack of funds.
They also didn't just suddenly decide CD & Better would be the singles. Those are the only ones that I believe completed videos exist, in multiple versions, and have for years. Axl refuses to release them.
I really doubt they have multiple music videos for any song. I doubt they even have a full video expect for the video for "Better" with lars supposedly in it. Ideas have prob been thought of and maybe some plans but I don't think videos were that much of an importance before the record came out. Unless we are talking videos of just live footage that is a given because they are all taped through out the multiple Chinese Democracy Tours.
The record wasn't promoted the way Rose wanted but then again where was he? You can't really bitch if you didn't pull your weight. He did do a billboard interview and and online chat which I like most fans appreciate but you need to sell your product. Especially in this day in age when information is so easy to get. Reviews or other people's opinions were all over the place but Axl's wasn't. Except for a Del James interview where it wasn't about the record. Even if he did some radio interviews it would have done slightly better. KRock played the whole album at Midnight the weekend before it was released, if Axl was in studio talking about each song and what they meant to him or the band the listeners might have understood the material better. He just fumbled the ball on the 5 yard line. There were commercials, Tons of Radio promo, Magazines and websites were talking about the record, everyone was but the man that needed to be.
Bottom line is every artist gets outs there and sells. TV performances, radio interviews/performances, music videos, talk shows, the whole nine yards. And if you think about it who wouldn't want Axl Rose on their late night show or radio program?
Re: Why didn't the label support Chinese Democracy?
Yeah that's what makes it so frustrating. It was all lined up perfectly for Axl. As much shit as the media has talked about him over the years they were fully willing to give him a shot and basically rolled out the carpet for him to get the word out there. Only Axl didn't play along, so it all ended by Feb. or so. I don't think the album would've been hugely successful, but it would've done FAR better if Axl put some sort of promotional effort into it.
A funny side story. A friend of mine called Sirius Satellite Radio today to activate a radio and the operator who works for a RADIO company asked him what bands he was into. He mentioned Guns N' Roses and the operator said, "ah, November Rain. That was a good album. I hear Axl's going solo."
Just shows you how such a "monumental" album can go completely unnoticed or forgotten when the artists themselves don't push it.