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mickronson
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mickronson wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quireb … _You_Fancy
I was lookin up the old Quireboys for a friend, I couldnt remember which fkin album the songs he was talkin about were on, even tho I own em, I cant be arsed to go look since I got the interwebby...
Bitter Sweet & Twisted

With a new full-member drummer in tow, Rudy Richman, they began working on the follow-up, "Bitter Sweet & Twisted", which was released in 1993; but the birth of Grunge changed the music scene and they were left apart. Axl Rose even asked them personally to join the "Use Your Illusion Tour" with Guns N' Roses and they followed the band for a while during their 1993 summer European tour, but they felt their music was out of style and decided to abandon the scene.

It might explain somewhat Spike joining Loaded once not so long ago for a tune or 2....

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

It's funny, all those people that proclaimed grunge to be the "new way", and things like Guns were old hat by 1993... yet a year later grunge was dead. 14

mickronson
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mickronson wrote:

and a certain band had a touch of the shotgun blues..

Im just wondering if Axl inviting someone as shitty (ok I used to like) as them is true.

Neemo
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Neemo wrote:

i wouldnt doubt it... Axl wanted alot of bands that he was into to tour with them back then...in think he even wanted NWA at one point

jorge76
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jorge76 wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

It's funny, all those people that proclaimed grunge to be the "new way", and things like Guns were old hat by 1993... yet a year later grunge was dead. 14

What's way funnier to me is the amount of 80's bands who claim grunge killed thier career, but thier career was dead long before grunge.

If you were in Trixter, Nirvana didn't kill your career.

Neemo wrote:

i wouldnt doubt it... Axl wanted alot of bands that he was into to tour with them back then...in think he even wanted NWA at one point

Didn't Ice T actually tour with them for a bit at one point.

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:
Neemo wrote:

i wouldnt doubt it... Axl wanted alot of bands that he was into to tour with them back then...in think he even wanted NWA at one point

jorge76 wrote:
Axlin08 wrote:

It's funny, all those people that proclaimed grunge to be the "new way", and things like Guns were old hat by 1993... yet a year later grunge was dead. 14

What's way funnier to me is the amount of 80's bands who claim grunge killed thier career, but thier career was dead long before grunge.

If you were in Trixter, Nirvana didn't kill your career.

Neemo wrote:

i wouldnt doubt it... Axl wanted alot of bands that he was into to tour with them back then...in think he even wanted NWA at one point

Didn't Ice T actually tour with them for a bit at one point.

I don't recall Ice-T ever actually getting out on the road with them, maybe. I do remember Axl wanted either NWA or Ice-T to open for them on the Use Your Illusion tour, specifically during the GN'R/Metallica co-headline leg. Axl said that James Hetfield didn't want it because he wasn't into rap at all. I want to say Slash said something like he liking those artists, but they weren't right for a GN'R show, or something of that sort. Hetfield then suggested them being cool with Nirvana, one of Axl's backup choices, and of course Kurt told James anywhere, anytime with Metallica, but no way with GN'R.

Of course it ultimately ended up Faith No More & Skid Row.

As for Jorge's point on grunge, that's a good point. I've seen countless interviews with some of these bands, and it's laughable how they see their career in hind sight. Motley Crue has cited grunge as the end of their heyday, yet before grunge really took a stranglehold, they fired their frontman from the beginning of their catalog output (that killed them). Ratt is another band that cited grunge as their end. Yet I remember Ratt, as a band who hired Desmond Child to "get them back on track" in 1989, Detonator was DOA in 1990, and their guitarist was so fucked up on heroin, by the time they did the Nobody Rides For Free video for Point Break, they were a quartet. Yet grunge killed them. Poison was a band that people were over with as soon as Guns N' Roses themselves hit the scene, yet it was grunge that killed them. Oh excuse me, grunge 'marketing' killed them according to Bret Michaels. In his eyes, fans were still interested, but MTV said no. MTV and the music business wanted to market partying and fun in the "Reagan 80's", and by the early 90's, with oversaturation, they saw anger & depression as the new marketing tool.

OR

Maybe, just maybe... Alice In Chains, Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden were just really really good fucking bands, that made those guys look lame, and instead of STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE and kicking their asses, they just laid over and died, and bitch and complain to this day about grunge killing them.

If anything killed them, it was them.

Neemo
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Neemo wrote:

SG opened for GNR for the Paris PPV

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

I know and took a ton of shit from their peers from doing it. Maybe not Chains, because I heard they were fans, but whoever "they" are supposedly rode them hard.

Faith No More was another band, that Mike Patton acted like he was "too cool for GN'R" on the road.

Neemo
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Neemo wrote:

cuz gnr treated them like dirt, and gnr were such primadonna's as well, which eventually FnM got sick of the excesses and left the tour i believe (its hard to remember, i do remember that when VR asked patten to front VR he said no way in hell

Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:

Really? 14

That's great.

I do remember that those Queen-like post-show parties with roman bath parties and tables full of lobster, and hot tubs with models and shit like that... they took alot of hell for, and are still living down.

But to be honest with you, I don't know why. A party with a bunch of naked models and chicks ready and willing, with tons of drugs and the finest food & drinks in the world... sounds good to me.

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