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- mickronson
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Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
GNR is just a girlfriend being strung along for a quick fuck now and then..its not going nowhere.
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
Ok.
I get the nostalgia trip.
I get that Axl's voice is gradually growing worse with all this singing ergo doing those songs that doesn't make the voice any worse.
But THAT set list is not why I'm a fan of this new band concept.
They're back to the same set list as 2002 with exception of TIL.
Not what I expected at all after the release.
But those idiots quoted over here: Jesus, get a fucking life. "Can't tell you how much I hate you Axl Rose". Some people should just be castrated. It's better that way.
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
Russtcb I think those comments are reflective of what's happening. Back in 2002 or 2006 and even in 2008 those types of comments would be met head on with a flurry of pro new Gn'R comments but most people now realize that the anti new Gn'R comments are right and Axl can't carry on the legcay without the old guys the way most fans had wished for. He just can't and he won't. Partly because he doesn't want to(that much is obvious) but another huge reason why is he just doesn't have the ability to. Guns N' Roses was bigger than the sum of their parts. Together they ruled and as talented as the new lineups Axl has assembled have been it just has caught fire. The spark wasn't there, isn't there and it's never gonna be there. That's what people are realizing. Axl realizes it even and it's obvious with the way he regresses back to the AFD loaded set list every single time. This makes part of me think even Axl wants a reunion but his ego is too big to let it happen.
I think the old guys are ready and willing to have the reunion. A lot of the time I think they hold back but with Axl as their frontman I think they'd go balls to the wall and create one last incredible album. I'd like new Gn'R to just dissapear, and we hear nothing from any type Gn'R for about 2 years. Let the old guys put together an amazing album(which I belive they would) with no hype and then BOOM! They're back. Kickass lead single, proper promotion and Guns N' Roses would be back in a big way. Nothing is ever gonna happen with this new band now. Does anyone really believe the new band is gonna release a a great album anytime soon or even at all? I just don't see it.
Old Gn'R = Greater than the sum of their parts
New Gn'R = Lesser than the sum of their parts.
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
I really feel people are finished with this new band concept. When even your diehards don't care, it's over. I remember people flying cross country to see that New Year's HOB Vegas show in 2001. Things have changed, not just for Guns N' Roses, but even for the new band, it's changed. Even if you ignore pre-2001.
Excellent point. It does signify a change from hardcore fans turning into casual fans. Most are now willing to just walk across the street to see them.
Yeah that set list is beyond horrific. How they can claim that same old snoozefest is spontaneously thought of each night is an insult to fans intelligence.
Bono makes a great point. In years past, for every negative post(regardless of the site), there were twenty to counteract it. Now the negativity just flows unobstructed.
Like Axlin and those comments from Russ prove, people in the U.S. are tired of this. Either release a new album to kick the worlds teeth in and properly tour behind it or get the old band back together. There's no middle ground that will work here.
We've had the rotating cast AFD nostalgia head trip several times. Now that well is bone dry unless you take it to the clubs and even that might require ticket giveaways.
If the status quo continues, just stay in other regions of the world where people are just glad to see Axl and some guys they don't know play Jungle so they can close their eyes and relive their youth.
Not the type to leave a show early, but if they ever come to Frisco with that set, I'm heading for the car when the Fortus solo kicks in because I already would have heard CD, It's So Easy(fave AFD song), and Sorry. I can pass on the rest. Well, if I'm high enough, might wait it out for the Ashba solo to see how Street of Dreams sounds up close and personal and how they do This I Love. But after that, to quote Axl, "That guy....GONE!!"
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
8.14.10: Axl Rose leaves crowd hanging before Sturgis appearance
STURGIS -- The final hours of Friday the 13th seemed like bad luck for the Rock '˜N Rev crowd. The cool wind began to blow, Alice in Chains had just finished its set at 11PM, and Axl Rose was nowhere to be seen.
"Don'™t worry about it," Jeremy Stark, 33, of Independence, Mo., said. 'This is what Axl does."
Guns N'™ Roses was set to play at 10:30, 11:30 or midnight, depending on which schedule you saw or rumor you heard. It was nothing new to Stark, who followed the band throughout its "Use Your Illusion" world tour in the early 1990s.
"He makes people wait," Stark said. "The complainers leave early, and the rest of us get to see the show."
Not everyone was happy with the wait. Angry voices could be heard. Beer bottles and cans were tossed at the stage. Some people left, not wanting to wait until Saturday morning for Rose and his band to begin performing. Some of them had bought two-for-one tickets at the gate.
About 10 minutes after midnight, a helicopter flew over the Monkey Rock USA compound, giving fans hope that Rose might be on board.
"That'™s him right there!" Stark said.
The pre-concert tension did not concern festival organizer Dan Catullo III, who said Guns N'™ Roses had done a sound check early Friday morning in preparation for the show.
"I woke up this morning, and Guns N'™ Roses was doing their sound check," he said. "That'™s when it sunk in for me: We got Guns N'™ Roses."
Catullo'™s other job was just beginning as Friday night'™s concerts began. He soon would be directing the cameras for the night. The plan is to release concert DVDs, as well as use the footage to show future acts just what Rock '˜N Rev has to offer.
When it comes to Axl Rose, that plan can get tricky.
"Axl'™s never approved a live shoot before," Catullo said. "Big-name directors like David Fincher and Wayne Isham have asked and never been approved. If I pull this off'¦"
Catullo trailed off into the land of dreaming big. Three $20-million video trucks captured the Rock '˜N Rev shows all week, but Friday night'™s shoot would likely be the biggest moment of the crews'™ careers.
Or it could be a total bust, if Rose did not show.
"People don'™t understand. Axl builds anticipation, and when he comes on stage, it'™s an explosion," Stark said.
Stark has waited a long time to see him play. In 2006, the last year Guns N'™ Roses performed in the United States, Stark waited four hours for a show to begin. It'™s all worth it to him, however.
"We'™d have driven to Canada to see Axl," he said.
At 12:47AM Saturday, the lights went out at the Rock '˜N Rev amphitheater.
At 12:51AM, what some consider the biggest concert in Sturgis motorcycle rally history began with "Chinese Democracy"
Stark was right.
Those who remained -- about 75 percent of the original crowd -- exploded as the show began.
Almost two hours later, after an encore that included "Paradise City," Axl Rose threw his red-capped microphone into the audience and said good night to Sturgis.
Source: Rapid City Journal
http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/news/ar … 002e0.html
- christina_rose
- Rep: 15
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
I am probably one of the few remaining here who would pay to see Axl do just about anything. I'd have gone to Sturgis if I could have afforded to. Maybe the setlist is old, or tired, or what have you. Considering this is the first US date they have played since 2006, I would call it a good night. Sure the waiting forever for them to come on and play may get tiring, but anyone who halfway knows GNR knows that Axl never comes on on time. Its just what he does. I for one like that review very much. The guy is a fan and for him it was worth the wait. Sure we can sit here and pick Axl apart, but at the end of the day does anything really change? I've spent far too long on this ride to get off, and until Axl Rose walks out and hangs up the mic, I'm not going anywhere.
- metallex78
- Rep: 194
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
I thought for that crown they would've stuck to a heavier set of rockers, so I actually give them a bit of credit for playing a song like This I Love. But other than that, what a bore... they didn't even play Better?
- metallex78
- Rep: 194
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
It also makes me wonder if he'll leave the Australian fans waiting that long when they play at the V8 Supercar Race Event later this year. I think a bunch of bogan drunk Aussie race fans won't take too kindly to waiting 3 hours for Axl to take stage...
- monkeychow
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Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
I am probably one of the few remaining here who would pay to see Axl do just about anything.
Me too.
I'm flying to Sydney to see the new band in December.
I'll never really understand the fuss people make about the start times. I supose I look at it a little differently.
I see Axl as one of those real one-off type peformers. Very few people sing like he does. Have the presence and chrisma he does. Write like he does. In thousands of peformers you'll only occasionally come across an Axl Rose.
So i see it as almost like a wild life safari. You've gone out on a mission for the night to see an Axl. It may happen and it may not. There's an element of danger to it. You might see something amazing, or you might waste your cash. Just like if you set out from home into the jungle looking to find an endangered bird, or set out in a boat looking for a 100 year storm, or chance around twisters in a truck.
To me a GNR date is like a weather report saying storms are expected in the region. It means I may get that twister if all else goes to plan, but it's not guarenteed.
I'll grant it's not how the business world generally runs, but that's my mindset for it all. The pay off to me is that when the show does happen - Axl always delivers. People can compalin about this and that - but at the end of the day no one sings those songs like Axl - and waiting around or not - when the show does happen he tends to deliver the goods.
Sure, if i was controling the band, I'd love a more heavy CD setlist, and longer shows ala the recent asian gigs, as I think the new band really shines on the newer songs. But then most people probably want the old classics, and the band can't play a 3 hour show each night. So of course it becomes more of a clasic hits package. But I think it's still a good night out.
Re: Sturgis, South Dakota, USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
"People don'™t understand. Axl builds anticipation, and when he comes on stage, it'™s an explosion," Stark said.
When 25% of the crowd has bailed before CD's intro, it's not an explosion. It's a popcorn fart.
Losing a fourth of your crowd before walking onstage is a frightening statistic, and that's not even factoring that they cant even sell out half an arena. Pull this stunt on a 2010-2011 US arena tour, you can take the remainder of the crowd backstage and perform the tunes there.
A tour here in the states has disaster written all over it.
