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Re: GNR tour dates in Canada?
Neemo wrote:thats pretty normal for a band of that big of name around here
i paided $94 or something in 2006...still not sure if i wanna commit to that cost again...still its only +/- 40lbs for you UK peeps using GBP
I'm really sorry but, Stop!
http://www.dreamwidth.org/userpic/330981/107347
Paided isnt a word ( little mistake I know, I'm jesting
)
But dude, 40lbs? Really?
Thats only ever used when speaking of a weight, not pounds as in, Pounds Sterling £££.
Just saying hee heeee
:peace:
haha sorry about the paided thing 
as for £, i dont have that on my keyboard and i couldnt be arsed to call up the character map... 
Re: GNR tour dates in Canada?
I retract my statment from before on the price of tix...
I found my ticket from Ottawa in '06 and the ticket price was $87.32, and in the fees and I'm sure it brings the total near $100...
Of course what makes this time suck is that I need to get an enhanced liecence to cross the border...
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Re: GNR tour dates in Canada?
briggsy wrote:Just bought my tix for Ottawa
I think this is the most I have ever spent on tix before...roughly $100 per ticket...
Not to go all U2 fan boy on you guys but $100 for a GN'R show right now is a fucking ripoff. They're stage production and show doesn't warrent that. U2's current tour is averageing $100 per ticket with floor seats going for $55-$75 and nosebleeds going for $35. This isn't a slag on Gn'R this is a slag on all bands. There's no way a Gn'R ticket in 2009 should cost as much or more than a U2 ticket simply based on stage production. I find it strange.
Isn't blackberry funding the tour or did they help pay for the stage?
I have been following that tour and I have not been impressed with the setlist at all. They haven't even done White As Snow yet. I really wish they would perform Native Son instead of Vertigo, god that song sucks, but, that is wishful thinking here. Anyways back on topic.
So they are charging 100 dollars for tickets. I believe I paid eighty dollars or maybe sixty dollars in 2002.
Tragically I think I am boycotting the tour, unless I am presented with two free tickets. I just can't wrap my head around losing a lead guitarist who was in the band for 10 years (do we count 1998 for Robin) almost if not longer than Slash, if we are counting 1987-1995.
Nothing against Bumblefoot, cool guy, but, losing Buckethead saddened me. I don't think DJ Ashba can fill Finck's shoes creatively.
I am not trying to turn this into a hate mongering speech, I just am saying I would like to support the band, if they have the rightful lead guitarist in the lineup. Last time I checked he isn't touring with Nine Inch Nails anymore. And he did re-join the band before, where is the harm in giving him a ring and if he accepts firing Ashba?
Hopefully, the tour is a success and you guys get to hear the whole album live.
Sorry and Prostitute would seem epic to hear, as well as the Meat Loaf inspired This I Love.
Re: GNR tour dates in Canada?
Bono wrote:briggsy wrote:Just bought my tix for Ottawa
I think this is the most I have ever spent on tix before...roughly $100 per ticket...
Not to go all U2 fan boy on you guys but $100 for a GN'R show right now is a fucking ripoff. They're stage production and show doesn't warrent that. U2's current tour is averageing $100 per ticket with floor seats going for $55-$75 and nosebleeds going for $35. This isn't a slag on Gn'R this is a slag on all bands. There's no way a Gn'R ticket in 2009 should cost as much or more than a U2 ticket simply based on stage production. I find it strange.
Isn't blackberry funding the tour or did they help pay for the stage?
I have been following that tour and I have not been impressed with the setlist at all. They haven't even done White As Snow yet. I really wish they would perform Native Son instead of Vertigo, god that song sucks, but, that is wishful thinking here. Anyways back on topic.
So they are charging 100 dollars for tickets. I believe I paid eighty dollars or maybe sixty dollars in 2002.
I'm not sure what Blackberry's involvment actually is. I'm guessing they helped fund the cost to build the stages cause I know that after Europe U2 themselves hadn't broke even yet so.......
It's easy to complain about the setlist for a band like U2. They're NEVER gonna be able to please everyone. They've brought back songs like The Unforgettable Fire, UltraViolet and have started playing Your Blue Room which had never been performed untill this tour. They play five songs off the new album and have completely revamped I'll Go Crazy to make it the highlight of the night almost evey single night. That takes guts to take the current single and play it ina manner that's almost completely unrecognizeable. They can't play the entire new album either so the super slow White as Snow gets left out. U2's setlist might not impress you but for a band who's technical production is that elaborate they manage to switch the set up every night, switching out songs and the order not to mention even the videos that acompany each song. Plus they're doing songs from War, UF, Joshua Tree, Rattle and Hum, Achtung Baby, ATYCLB, HTDAAB and NLOTH. They play 5 songs off the new album and have consitently started shows with 3 or sometimes four new songs in a row. They don't hide behind the past. As for Vertigo, that IS Native Son with different lyrics. Vertigo rocks in concert regardless of the lyrics.
Hopefully for Gn'R fans attending these shows they follow U2's lead. It'd be great for fans if they did more Illusions and more CD songs but the sad thing is there's a REALLY GOOD CHANCE ol' Axl just gives you guys the same song and dance we saw in 2002 and 2006.
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Bono wrote:Gagarin wrote:Arenas vs Theatres...
Well.
A theatre = 1 or 2 thousand, maybe capacity. That's a big ass theatre. 1 person more than 2,000 and they can't get in.
An arena = 5-10 thousand in ticket sales, 20,000 capacity.... Who cares if it's not full, besides fans pissing about the old days? Anyone who can come can buy a ticket and come.
If you then paper the show - half-off, free, buy 4 get 8 free, whatever - the venue still pulls in people it can sell beer to, more merchandise still get's sold, and there's a few more cars they can sell a parking pass to. That's gravy. A theatre is dealing with the SAME fixed costs, with much LESS opportunity for revenue for all involved.
What matters is how many tickets you needed to sell to make it worthwhile.
90 percent of a 2,000 theatre < 50 percent of a 15,000 arena.
Why is Gn'R selling out 50% of a 15 000 seat venue but only able to sell out 90% of a 2000 seat venue? Ask any sports franchise in the world if they care if they play to a half empty arena? The atmosphere isn't nearly as good and the same thing goes for concerts.
1.) The 90% was to make a point that an impressive looking number 'nearly sold out' doesn't mean anything. It's about covering costs and making money for everyone involved.
2.) See MLB. Their stadiums are mostly empty all season. But they're big enough for playoffs and big games...because you can't magically make a stadium twice as big for when you have the customers. Just like they can't make a 2,000 seat theatre 4,000 seats big if the demand allows. You upsize your venue to maximize revenue.
3.) With the lights out and sections blocked off (unlike sports, the lights are ON), you don't even notice.
Cubs sell out nearly 40,000 a game... 162 games a year. Just sayin'.
Re: GNR tour dates in Canada?
Backslash wrote:Bono, I'm gonna say it again... there's no bloody way I'm going to Red Deer in -40 weather to get stuck in a January snowstorm when I can go to a concert in my backyard.
Just saying... they need to play concerts where the population is. Maybe it would be different in the summer when people can count on a nice drive up the QEII. But in January? That's a suicide mission!
The way I see it, there's approx. 1 million people in Calgary and another 1 million in Edmonton. There's like 89,000 in Red Deer. Are you telling me that 10% of the population of Red Deer would go to a Guns N' Roses concert in the bone chilling dead of January? Well no, people can drive from Edmonton or Calgary... but how can anyone guarantee that people would be willing to risk the trip in January?
See I'm coming from Newfoundland where you can't plan to do anything in the winter because there's a blizzard every 2nd day. Of course, at least they plow the roads there.
And I gotta say, I can't tolerate the cold. -20 is the coldest I'd ever experienced until last year. we had a stretch of -43 with windchill here in Cow Town and it was truly miserable. I can't imagine working up in the mines in -53.
With all that said, I stand by my original statement... it's January. Cold, possibly snowy, and too far to go. I guess it's more of an "is it worth it question." I mean, the Saddledome is 10 minutes away, Red Deer is 1.5 hours. I don't think I would risk buying the tickets for Red Deer in January in lieu of a concert at the Saddledome. At least, you'd need more than Axl to drag me to that.
Oh and, I've got my tix. Was thinking of floor, but F that. Me and the wife want a good view and to be able to drink/piss whenever we want. You can't do that in GA.
Right behind the penalty box! hope the Suicide Girls are there again this time. 
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Re: GNR tour dates in Canada?
TheSundanceKid wrote:Bono wrote:Not to go all U2 fan boy on you guys but $100 for a GN'R show right now is a fucking ripoff. They're stage production and show doesn't warrent that. U2's current tour is averageing $100 per ticket with floor seats going for $55-$75 and nosebleeds going for $35. This isn't a slag on Gn'R this is a slag on all bands. There's no way a Gn'R ticket in 2009 should cost as much or more than a U2 ticket simply based on stage production. I find it strange.
Isn't blackberry funding the tour or did they help pay for the stage?
I have been following that tour and I have not been impressed with the setlist at all. They haven't even done White As Snow yet. I really wish they would perform Native Son instead of Vertigo, god that song sucks, but, that is wishful thinking here. Anyways back on topic.
So they are charging 100 dollars for tickets. I believe I paid eighty dollars or maybe sixty dollars in 2002.
I'm not sure what Blackberry's involvment actually is. I'm guessing they helped fund the cost to build the stages cause I know that after Europe U2 themselves hadn't broke even yet so.......
It's easy to complain about the setlist for a band like U2. They're NEVER gonna be able to please everyone. They've brought back songs like The Unforgettable Fire, UltraViolet and have started playing Your Blue Room which had never been performed untill this tour. They play five songs off the new album and have completely revamped I'll Go Crazy to make it the highlight of the night almost evey single night. That takes guts to take the current single and play it ina manner that's almost completely unrecognizeable. They can't play the entire new album either so the super slow White as Snow gets left out. U2's setlist might not impress you but for a band who's technical production is that elaborate they manage to switch the set up every night, switching out songs and the order not to mention even the videos that acompany each song. Plus they're doing songs from War, UF, Joshua Tree, Rattle and Hum, Achtung Baby, ATYCLB, HTDAAB and NLOTH. They play 5 songs off the new album and have consitently started shows with 3 or sometimes four new songs in a row. They don't hide behind the past. As for Vertigo, that IS Native Son with different lyrics. Vertigo rocks in concert regardless of the lyrics.
Hopefully for Gn'R fans attending these shows they follow U2's lead. It'd be great for fans if they did more Illusions and more CD songs but the sad thing is there's a REALLY GOOD CHANCE ol' Axl just gives you guys the same song and dance we saw in 2002 and 2006.
I know that it is Vertigo, I implied that the Native Son lyrics are far superior and aren't ridiculous.
I believe it was July 02, 2009 at Barcelona, Spain that U2 played Electrical Storm for the first time.
Anyways, I rather have more setlists with songs not performed in full live yet played, like The Hands That Built America, I know they have done snippets of it. Would like to see When I Look At The World performed and Wild Honey played by the full band. Yes, I love Ultraviolet (Light My Way) being dust off.
U2's streaming of their Rose Bowl concert this Sunday on YouTube is such a great idea, too bad some bands don't like that form of communication / medium to use, not naming names here
Back on topic...
Does anyone think Axl will do the jersey look again?
Or perhaps just hockey jerseys?
What about hair? Does anyone think he will get rid of the Predator Braid look?
All superficial matters and stuff I don't care about, I just thought I would add those elements, since I can't really continue my Robin Finck bitchfest.
I 2002 was heavier in the AFD songs and 2006 didn't have Think About You in the set list. I don't know about the Toronto show as I didn't go in 06.
Did you kids get TWAT or was that pretty much the NYC shows?
Re: GNR tour dates in Canada?
Olorin wrote:Neemo wrote:thats pretty normal for a band of that big of name around here
i paided $94 or something in 2006...still not sure if i wanna commit to that cost again...still its only +/- 40lbs for you UK peeps using GBP
I'm really sorry but, Stop!
http://www.dreamwidth.org/userpic/330981/107347
Paided isnt a word ( little mistake I know, I'm jesting
But dude, 40lbs? Really?
Thats only ever used when speaking of a weight, not pounds as in, Pounds Sterling £££.
Just saying hee heeee
haha sorry about the paided thing
as for £, i dont have that on my keyboard and i couldnt be arsed to call up the character map...
I've just been dying to that grammertime gif for ages thats all, I think its awesome
On my keyboard £ is on the 3 key and $ is on the 4 key. I used to have a compaq laptop knocked off from the factory and the eedjit who got it for me took one with a US keyboard, no damn pound sign!
It was a freebie I suppose, but it also meant I was the only guy in college who couldnt write "£" 
