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Re: GNR tour dates in Canada?
Bono, I'm gonna say it again... there's no bloody way I'm going to Red Deer in -40 weather to get stuck in a January snowstorm when I can go to a concert in my backyard.
Just saying... they need to play concerts where the population is. Maybe it would be different in the summer when people can count on a nice drive up the QEII. But in January? That's a suicide mission!
The way I see it, there's approx. 1 million people in Calgary and another 1 million in Edmonton. There's like 89,000 in Red Deer. Are you telling me that 10% of the population of Red Deer would go to a Guns N' Roses concert in the bone chilling dead of January? Well no, people can drive from Edmonton or Calgary... but how can anyone guarantee that people would be willing to risk the trip in January?
Re: GNR tour dates in Canada?
Arenas vs Theatres...
Well.
A theatre = 1 or 2 thousand, maybe capacity. That's a big ass theatre. 1 person more than 2,000 and they can't get in.
An arena = 5-10 thousand in ticket sales, 20,000 capacity.... Who cares if it's not full, besides fans pissing about the old days? Anyone who can come can buy a ticket and come.
If you then paper the show - half-off, free, buy 4 get 8 free, whatever - the venue still pulls in people it can sell beer to, more merchandise still get's sold, and there's a few more cars they can sell a parking pass to. That's gravy. A theatre is dealing with the SAME fixed costs, with much LESS opportunity for revenue for all involved.
What matters is how many tickets you needed to sell to make it worthwhile.
90 percent of a 2,000 theatre < 50 percent of a 15,000 arena.
Re: GNR tour dates in Canada?
madagas wrote:December 6th, 2006 - Calgary, AB @ Pengrowth Saddledome Sold Out!
Notes: During Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Axl had to ask the crowd on the floor to take a step back. Because everyone was pushing towards the stage.
Opening acts: Helmet, Suicide Girls, Sebastian BachAttendance: 13,370
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December 7th, 2006 - Edmonton, AB @ Rexall Place Sold Out!
Notes: During Mr. Brownstone Axl asks the crowd to take a step back.
Opening acts: Helmet, Suicide Girls, Sebastian BachAttendance: 13,355
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See that's abso-freaking-lutely hilarious. Pure propaganda I'm not saying you're spreading this Madagas cause I know you got this from somwhere but this is what I mean. Those buildings can hold about 18 000 -19 000 each for a concert if you're counting the capacity on the floor. Rexall says it can hold 12 000 for concerts but that's clearly bullshit. That's simply seats in the stands with specific sections blocked off and if I remember correctly they were selling seats behind the stage. At least in Calgary they did. Sold Out my ass. None of the upper sections were blocked off. Tickets were available for the entire buildings. They simply did not sell out those venues unless we're to believe nearly half the people who bought tickets simply didn't show up. the floor would be empty if that was the case. Not very likely. Why do that again? Why play to half empty arenas? I just don't get that. That's my only issue. It's great for those who want to see them but I just don't get their logic. Of course it's positive they're gonna tour but I just dont' get why they wouldn't wanna play in the most appropriate sized venues rather than fake their way through it as a legit arena act.
Last time they announced a tour in this area my phone went crazy with people calling me to tell me about it. This time.... NOTHING. I hope for Gn'R's sake it goes well but man I don't know.......
don't shoot the messenger...that did not come from Pollstar so I don't claim it as fact. It came from HTGTH so take it for what it's worth. I was more just pointing out the dates and cities played last time.
I still think they should play theatres to small arenas no matter where they are. Most importantly, you get the best sound and vibe out of those venues.