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- tejastech08
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Re: Michael Jackson Discussion
This has turned into a tabloid thread unfortunately.
Re: Michael Jackson Discussion
That's not the mind of a pedophile though, James. Kiddie porn is a huge part of it and their impulse control. They literally can't control themselves and they don't think rationally enough to control their urges. There's a psychological make up to them just like nymphomaniacs, klepto's, pyro's and serial killers. He couldn't be in bed with a boy and not molest them if he were a pedophile. There should have been at least one proven case, which there never was.
Really, the only thing I remember with Brooke Shields is that she was supposed to be the aggressor and he pulled back, which is why he took Webster and a monkey on their date. That's all I've heard. And I'll have to watch the Oprah thing again, because I swear I remember him claiming to be a virgin in that interview.
Re: Michael Jackson Discussion
That's not the mind of a pedophile though, James. Kiddie porn is a huge part of it and their impulse control. They literally can't control themselves and they don't think rationally enough to control their urges. There's a psychological make up to them just like nymphomaniacs, klepto's, pyro's and serial killers. He couldn't be in bed with a boy and not molest them if he were a pedophile. there should ahve been at least one proven case, which there never was.
Are there any statistics showing child molesters need child porn? If so, I'd like to see the links because I've never heard of such a thing. Obviously some do since it exists, but I highly doubt the majority of child abusers own any child porn. Hell, I would be willing to wager that most never even look at it or even seek to obtain it because of the risk of going to prison due to the pretty much zero tolerance for it.
I'm sorry, but the Macaulay Culkin in his underwear picture made me laugh. From what I've been reading the last few days is that there is a huge credibility problem with some of the employees from Neverland from the early to mid 90's. But that's an interesting read for sure.
There are a lot of discrepancies in the various comments over the years, and hopefully the pieces of the puzzle start coming together in the aftermath of his death.
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The whole thing with porn and people who commit sex crimes is an overblown falsity, created by biased psychologists, with a religious slant.
Most people who commit crimes against children, or even adults (rape), typically do it as an act of power and control... aka - violence. Some studies have also suggested that the act of manipulating the child, actually causes them to reach sexual climax, rather than any sexual activity.
With that said, the credibility of ANYONE who worked at Neverland from the beginning to the end, has proven to be suspect. Too dicey, and too gray.
If Debbie Rowe herself were to talk dirt, i'd take it with a grain of salt.
The fact of the matter is, that the true story of Michael Jackson, is he was a wonderful music artist, who had the best intentions for children, searching for his own inner peace. That's it. The real true story of his existence... will never be known. Just innuendo will be around for all else. This won't be like Elvis were all the Memphis Mafia and Priscilla herself started telling the true story.
Michael has no Priscilla, and his entourage were all money grubbers, leaving them hard to believe.
Re: Michael Jackson Discussion
The fact of the matter is, that the true story of Michael Jackson, is he was a wonderful music artist, who had the best intentions for children
That isn't a fact, its an assumption. If it was a fact, he wouldn't have been under a cloud of suspicion for the past twenty years.
I just finished watching the documentary 'Living With Michael Jackson'. I thought it gave a pretty good(yet brief) glimpse into his life. I definitely recommend it to anyone who hasn't watched it.
There is no doubt that he was very child like. Even in adult type situations not only is he child like, but very passive as well. He becomes very uncomfortable when being quizzed on his plastic surgeries, and really goes on the defense. Him claiming he's only had two surgeries(nose the exception) and saying its the "100% truth" is laughable. Makes you realize, if he'll lie about this, what else will he lie about?
Not much of this documentary is devoted to the child abuse allegations. He does address it, but doesn't go into much detail. His stance on it is quite odd though. Not just that he thinks its normal, but that it somehow improves the family unit, this coming from a man who took his children from their mother(not by force obviously) and his oldest child said he didn't even have a mother.
I also found the short segment of him holding the hand of his accuser to be very uncomfortable. I'm not sure how the guy interviewing him couldn't address it right then and there. I think that is a BIG problem with his life whether or not the abuse allegations are true..... too many people enabling the situation.
Where I did understand where he was coming from was how he shielded his children with masks. He has a strong dislike of the paparazzi, and simply didn't want them being hounded and photographed. That's a very unconventional way to raise children, but you can see why he would do it, at least while they are young.
His father is a despicable person. He talks about how he would beat him for not doing dance routines properly, and also make fun of his looks.
I liked his story about Tatum O Neal. She wanted to fuck him, but he balked at the opportunity when they were in her room. Basically just sounded like a shy teenager at the time. He also mentions again about how his brothers had sex with girls in the same room with him when he was a kid. This obviously had a huge effect on his life. His older brothers should be ashamed of themselves, and if any of those Jackson kids ever deserved a beating, it was them for doing that to him.
The real true story of his existence... will never be known. Just innuendo will be around for all else. This won't be like Elvis were all the Memphis Mafia and Priscilla herself started telling the true story.
Michael has no Priscilla, and his entourage were all money grubbers, leaving them hard to believe.
Yeah its highly unlikely we ever get the full story, unfortunately. We're gonna get more info obviously(and probably lots of it), but like you said salt is gonna have to be taken in large doses unless actual proof can back up any claims.
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Simply an amazing accomplishment, shows what a huge icon he was and will continue to be.
http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=8659
Michael Jackson Chartwatch
by Paul Cashmere - June 30 2009
Michael Jackson will hold down the top 3 spots on the Billboard chart this week.
‘The Essential Michael Jackson’, ‘Number Ones’ and ‘Thriller’ are expected to make up the top 3 spots when the chart is released later this week.
Outside of the top 10, ‘Off The Wall’ is tracking well for a top 20 position, while ‘Bad’ and ‘Dangerous’ will be in the Top 30.
Stores have reported sales of Jackson albums not seen since the death of John Lennon. Lennon’s murder in 1980 prompted fans to stock up on holes in their collection and the Jackson death is having a similar impact at retail.
In the USA, iTunes has 5 Michael Jackson albums in the top 10.
The Essential Michael Jackson (1)
Number Ones (2)
Thriller (3)
Off The Wall (4)
Thriller 25th Anniversary (10)
The iTunes singles chart features
Man In The Mirror (1)
The Way You Make Me Feel (4)
Billie Jean (5)
Black Or White (7)
Smooth Criminal (
Don’t Stop Til You Get Enough (10)
Meanwhile at Amazon.com, Michael Jackson owns the Top 10:
Thriller 25th Anniversary (1)
Off The Wall (2)
Bad (3)
The Ultimate Collection (4)
Number Ones (5)
Dangerous (6)
The Essential Michael Jackson (
History Vol 1 (9)
Invincible (10)
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A nice gesture, but it obviously wouldn't be the same
http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=8658
Michael Jackson This Is It To Become A Tribute Show
by Paul Cashmere - June 30 2009
The organisers of the Michael Jackson `This Is It` tour now plan to put on a tribute concert featuring the planned setlist that they should would have had had it gone ahead.
An announcement about the show is expected soon with September the likely timing for the event.
It is still early stages as the guests would have to agree to perform and then rehearse for the show.
Jackson was only three weeks away from beginning ‘This Is It’ in London. 50 shows had sold out taking the event through until March 2010. The plan was then to tour the world.
The show will not necessarily take place in London. The most likely scenario is that it will happen in Los Angeles.
Meanwhile, Undercover has learned that the night before Michael died he did a complete dress rehearsal of the show that was filmed.
Footage of the rehearsal is said to be excellent quality.
Jackson had been rehearsing the complete performance at The Staples Center in Los Angeles.
It is common practice for a major show to be completely dress rehearsed, sometimes up to 100 times before the first show of a tour.
We hear that a DVD and CD of the rehearsal is currently being produced and will be released soon.
This is what the ‘This Is It’ show would have looked like:
Billie Jean (from Thriller, 1982)
Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’ (from Thriller, 1982)
Rock With You (from Off The Wall, 1979)
The Way You Make Me Feel (from Bad, 1987)
Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough (from Off The Wall, 1979)
I Just Can’t Stop Loving You (from Bad, 1987)
Human Nature (from Thriller, 1982)
Smooth Criminal (from Bad, 1987)
Girlfriend (from Off The Wall, 1979)
Man In The Mirror (from Bad, 1987)
Beat It (from Thriller, 1982)
One Day In Your Life (Forever Michael, 1975)
Heal The World (from Dangerous, 1991)
You Are Not Alone (from HIStory, 1995)
Remember The Time (from Dangerous, 1991)
Thriller (from Thriller, 1982)
- tejastech08
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Re: Michael Jackson Discussion
The bulk of Jackson's album sales came from digital retailers, as many brick and mortar stores quickly ran out of available stock. Sources say his "Essential Michael Jackson," "Number Ones" and "Thriller" each sold more than 30,000 digital albums, with "Essential" moving more than 70,000 downloads alone.
I'm one of the 70,000 "Essential" buyers. Bought it from Amazon for $16.99. iTunes had the same price but they charge sales tax whereas Amazon doesn't so it was a no-brainer. 
