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Re: Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion
No ones laughing at the fact that you said it should be shown. I was just curious as to what would need to be buried in that video? Before I watched it, I was thinking there was something incriminating or damning on it from the comments in the thread. Then I watched it and all it did was make him seem more human to me. He looks as if he knows the whole thing is ridiculous, which I believe it was.
Maybe THAT'S why the media won't want to show it. God forbid they show something that makes him look human in relation to the molestation charges. The media loved to pour the negative spin on Michael and anyone for that matter. If there were any negative videos out there they'd surely show them. This video doesn't fit that description though, so it's of no use to them. I agree with Russ, I think he comes off looking better in that video. If they did show it on the news, WITHOUT that ridiculous article that went along with it, people may view the whole situation a little differently. So you're right James, they should show it, but they won't.
Re: Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion
I can't be arsed to read this whole thread at the moment, but I feel like I am living in the twilight zone that people are celebrating him as if he was someone that should be worshipped.
It's undeniable that he was a talented musician, but the man was a pedophile and it completely baffles me that people actually believe he was just some harmless weirdo or are willing to overlook it because he was once a talented musician.
Part of me wants to get rid of my TV completely because I can't stand this celebrity obsessed society that we've become to the point where people completely overlook the obvious because it involves someone famous. It's just sad and pathetic.
I'm glad the fucker is gone and I can't wait until he fades into the background where he rightfully belongs. I'm really disappointed in humanity though.
Re: Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion
That's the biggest copout ever. I guess I shouldn't consider OJ Simpson a murderer either. Not guilty does not equal innocence. Even two of the jurors spoke out and said they thought he was guilty.
Seriously, the fact that anyone even considers his innocence shows how fucked up society is general when it comes to celebrities. If he was some random middle aged man that liked to target boys in a specific age range to sleep in his bed no one would ever buy the nonsense that he thinks he is Peter Pan. Heck no one would be stupid enough to let their child sleep with him for fuck's sake, but because he's a celebrity people can bury their head in the sand.
The guy targeted a specific age range of young boys to sleep in his bed. He had a really weird creepy relationship with the kid in 93 where he'd sleep in that kid's bed every single night and leave in the morning when he went to school, and was back at that kid's house in the evening. Law enforcement found books of nude boys that are commonly found in pedophiles homes. They found a photo of a nude boy. He had alarms around his bed room to alarm him any time approaced his room. One accuser was able to accurately describe his genitals and he *immediately* settled once that came out. His lawyer tried to delay the civil trial in 93 because he said MJ would be forced to take the 5th. He also paid off other people. He basically hired a thug to intimidate the original accuser any potential witnesses.
These aren't the actions of an innocent man and he is very clearly a pedophile with his obsession with boys 10-13 but he gets away with it because no one wants to believe a celebrity could do such a thing. If he was an average man he would have been locked up long ago. No one would buy that he's some fragile peter pan who is uber creepy yet harmless. It's really an insult to everyone's intelligence that they'd even float such a bogus defense but too many sheep who are blinded by fame and money fall for it. It's a sad commentary on our society.
Re: Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion
1) OJ Simpson became a murderer, when he basically confessed to the crime, AFTER his trial, so Double Jeopardy protected him.
2) Not guilty = not guilty, unless you just want people to fit a certain profile, and don't care about the law. You just make your mind up however the wind is blowing.
3) Jurors are me and you. They mean nothing in the context of a case. They are not sources on someone's innocence and/or guilt.
4) People consider his innocence, because he was found not guilty in a court of law. Just because he's a celebrity, doesn't give you some "still hate him" clause, simply because you enjoy seeing them fry.
5) If he was some random middle aged man, i'd still have the same attitude, and said that earlier in the thread. Too often, society reacts harshly to what they don't understand.
6) I'm half-convinced Michael targeting age-specific boys, because their age was before their innocence was lost and they were sexualized and it became uncomfortable for the children, and he chose boys imo, because in his mind, he saw more of a liability having girls in the same bed as a man.
7) People NEVER buried their head in the sand. They slaughtered Michael Jackson's character during BOTH allegations, and it led to the demise of his career. Where were you at?
8) Michael Jackson did not sleep in Jordie Chandler's (or anyone else) bed every night, and then leave when the kid went to school.
9) Law enforcement never found photos of nude boys. Unsubstantiated rumor outside of what Nancy Grace pulled out of her twat.
10) There are other explanations for Michael's room alarms.
11) Jordie Chandler's confession was coherced out of him, under sedation, by his father.
12) Lisa Marie pushed Michael to settle, because of the destruction to his career. Michael wanted to fight it, because he was innocent. Notice the second trial, Michael DID fight it, and won.
13) Michael's lawyer in '93 was Johnny Cochran, who's MO was to delay trials. It's what a good lawyer does. Next...
14) He also paid off other people... where's your proof? That's right, you have none.
15) He sent muscle to witnesses... where's your proof? That's right, you have none.
16) If Michael Jackson got away with anything, it's because he had the money to afford a good defense team, BOTH times. Not because of his celebrity. Most people lose cases in court, because they don't have the bread for a good lawyer, who half-asses their way through the proceedings, and gets them convicted.
The only thing sad about all of this, is your revisionist history you've created out of thin air, in order to fit your picture that Michael Jackson is a child molester, end of story. You're preaching a religion sir, not truth.
Re: Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion
If there's any revisionist history going on, its not by those discussing the child abuse allegations. The mainstream media is ignoring those aspects of his life, and have been since his death. I know you mentioned a specific program earlier in this thread(which I need to look for on youtube), but other than that, nothing.
There's nothing wrong with people wanting to try and get to the bottom of what really went on in that aspect of his life. There is something wrong with people trying to act like it never happened, which is happening on a mass scale.
Re: Michael Jackson's This Is It Discussion
Acquiesce, I don't remember anything about a book of nude boys. Not saying its false, just don't remember it. You read that in a book or see it in a documentary? Only thing I know of regarding anything of that nature is the pic of Culkin in his underwear, and innocent or jerk off material for him, cannot be classified as child porn.
