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Re: If the Skwerl
Axlin08 wrote:The same people that think CD sucks, were the same ones who thought Hinder's last album was "epic".
Not true at all. Generalizing about a group because you don't agree with them is weak.
Kind of like saying CD sucks, simply because Slash isn't on it?
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Re: If the Skwerl
You are entitled to this opinion. You're wrong, but you're entitled to the opinion. YOU might be missing something without it, but the rest of the world isn't missing anything. It is not even amongst the best GnR music ever made, so how can it be amongst the best ever? That's fanboy shit. Get real - people don't care for the album because it isn't very good. Not because they hate Axl or want Slash back or any other retarded reason thrown out by people that just don't want to accept that while they love the album, most people don't even like whatever they've heard from it.
Step back and look at it objectively. Is the record company, who knows way more about the music industry than you could ever dream of knowing, going to walk away from a great album out of spite? Hell no, ALL they care about is money, so if CD was some super great album, they would have backed it regardless of what Axl did knowing that great music by Axl Rose as GnR is going to sell.
Who the fuck are you to tell anyone their opinion is wrong?
Olorin wrote:So David Gimour's solo career is just a flop?
I think his entire career is a flop.
Aye Buzzsaw, your entitled to your opinion of course blah blah blah...
Re: If the Skwerl
buzzsaw wrote:Olorin wrote:Fuck yeah. But if the second album drops from the sky, it should be met with more grounded and realistic hype and expectations than the "mythical Chinese Democracy", and get a fairer hearing out over all. If that album has material equal in quality to CD and they actually work it and promote it, to make it a success, I think some people who ignorantly dismissed CD will find themselves revisting it.
I didn't "ignotantly dismiss" CD - if I did, I wouldn't like TWAT so much. The album sucks. It's a logistical nightmare on every single level. The songs are mixed poorly, overproduced, cluttered, choppy, and lack any kind of flow to them. The booklet is possibly the worst booklet in the history of music. There are a lot of valid resons for disliking the album. Don't assume people just "ignorantly dismissed" CD if they don't like it. All that does is show that while people can list valid reasons why they don't like it, you struggle to list valid reasons why they should.
Hark at you, I wouldnt ever make a list of why people should like any fucking thing whatsoever. People are entitled to like or dislike Chinese Democracy, there are plenty of people who gave the album a whirl and didnt like it, thats fine by me.
I'm just commenting on the fact that there are people out there who dismissed CD without even hearing a note because its cool to hate on Axl, bash new guns and CD and basically jump on the bandwagon. Or if they never "jumped on the bandwagon", many general music fans and potential listeners could simply have heard a lot of negative things about the album and just never thought it was worth giving it a try.
There are also people that claim to love the album that were going to love it even if it was just Axl taking a shit (which some would argue is exactly what it is), so what is your point?
Re: If the Skwerl
buzzsaw wrote:Axlin08 wrote:The same people that think CD sucks, were the same ones who thought Hinder's last album was "epic".
Not true at all. Generalizing about a group because you don't agree with them is weak.
Kind of like saying CD sucks, simply because Slash isn't on it?
Yep. Let me know who said that and when. It won't be me I assure you.
Re: If the Skwerl
buzzsaw wrote:You are entitled to this opinion. You're wrong, but you're entitled to the opinion. YOU might be missing something without it, but the rest of the world isn't missing anything. It is not even amongst the best GnR music ever made, so how can it be amongst the best ever? That's fanboy shit. Get real - people don't care for the album because it isn't very good. Not because they hate Axl or want Slash back or any other retarded reason thrown out by people that just don't want to accept that while they love the album, most people don't even like whatever they've heard from it.
Step back and look at it objectively. Is the record company, who knows way more about the music industry than you could ever dream of knowing, going to walk away from a great album out of spite? Hell no, ALL they care about is money, so if CD was some super great album, they would have backed it regardless of what Axl did knowing that great music by Axl Rose as GnR is going to sell.
Who the fuck are you to tell anyone their opinion is wrong?
buzzsaw wrote:Olorin wrote:So David Gimour's solo career is just a flop?
I think his entire career is a flop.
Aye Buzzsaw, your entitled to your opinion of course blah blah blah...
I'm right on both accounts. Haven't you learned anything yet? Geez.
Re: If the Skwerl
There are also people that claim to love the album that were going to love it even if it was just Axl taking a shit (which some would argue is exactly what it is), so what is your point?
I already made it, and your right, I can think of a few forum dwellers who would have said they liked it no matter what it sounded like.
Re: If the Skwerl
Axlin08 wrote:buzzsaw wrote:Not true at all. Generalizing about a group because you don't agree with them is weak.
Kind of like saying CD sucks, simply because Slash isn't on it?
Yep. Let me know who said that and when. It won't be me I assure you.
WHAT?!?!?!
YOU might not of said it, but 99% of the haters i've seen bring negativity towards CD, say "where's Slash?"
Re: If the Skwerl
buzzsaw wrote:There are also people that claim to love the album that were going to love it even if it was just Axl taking a shit (which some would argue is exactly what it is), so what is your point?
I already made it, and your right, I can think of a few forum dwellers who would have said they liked it no matter what it sounded like.
Good. Those 2 sides cancel each other out and the rest of the world ignored it. We all knew this already, so again I have to ask what your point was.
Re: If the Skwerl
buzzsaw wrote:Axlin08 wrote:Kind of like saying CD sucks, simply because Slash isn't on it?
Yep. Let me know who said that and when. It won't be me I assure you.
WHAT?!?!?!
YOU might not of said it, but 99% of the haters i've seen bring negativity towards CD, say "where's Slash?"
Really? I've never seen 1 person say that, and I've been around the forums forever. I've seen people say I wonder what Slash could have done, but I've never seen anyone say I only hate the album because Slash isn't on it. Never.
