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Communist China
 Rep: 130 

Re: White House dampens stimulus expectations

You guys are fucking nuts. Haha.

tejastech08
 Rep: 194 

Re: White House dampens stimulus expectations

tejastech08 wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

No need to worry. You might be knee deep in debt, but hell, who isn't? The banks won't turn their backs on their biggest cashcow.

You will probably go broke though, like you did in the 1780s, 1860s and 1930s. Not the end of the world, you just have to turn over some more freedoms to the IMF.

And nobody's going to nuke anyone. All that real estate? Viruses are much more cost effective, they just gets rid of all the useless eaters, and will boost the pharmaceutical industry to new heights in the west. I guess that's what the bankers call a win-win situation.

In the end we will all be more secure and tranquilized. Embrace it. Independent thought can be such a drag anyway 22

Actually I'm not in debt. It's everybody else in this shithole country. 16

Furbush
 Rep: 107 

Re: White House dampens stimulus expectations

Furbush wrote:

ok.. here it goes.. my first foray into the news threads....enjoy

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polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: White House dampens stimulus expectations

polluxlm wrote:
tejastech08 wrote:

Actually I'm not in debt. It's everybody else in this shithole country. 16

Oh, but you are. 10 trillion divided by 300 million. 16

buzzsaw
 Rep: 423 

Re: White House dampens stimulus expectations

buzzsaw wrote:

When are the people going to get the money instead of the corporations?  Shit, pay off 1 mortgage for every household (US Citizens and Green Cards only).  That will get far more money back into the economy than bailing out any bank or car company.

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: White House dampens stimulus expectations

James wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

When are the people going to get the money instead of the corporations?  Shit, pay off 1 mortgage for every household (US Citizens and Green Cards only).  That will get far more money back into the economy than bailing out any bank or car company.

What are these checks going to do other than prop up the Chinese economy and allow more of their worthless trinkets to flood Wal Mart? I realize free money is great and would love a quick check so I'll have extra spending money at the Santogold concert next month, but I don't really see what it accomplishes. Did the Bush free checks in 2008 save us? No, it just made it worse.

The days of borrowed money to prop up foreign economies needs to grind to a complete halt. I don't care if it gets worse. Our system and way of life need a massive correction.

Our manufacturing base has to be resurrected in some aspect. This situation is never going to improve as long as Joe and Jill public keep demanding foreign garbage at Wal Mart.

Resurrecting our manufacturing base(jobs, and plenty of them) will ignite a trade war to end all trade wars, but better that than the complete and total collapse of our nation.

Not one penny of the almost one trillion "stimulus" goes towards this.......


and it will fail. Just like the last stimulus did. Later this year we'll be discussing a 2 trillion "stimulus", which will also fail.

Joe and Jill just don't get it. They yell "change" while maxing out their last credit card to buy the latest bullshit gadget, sitting in a soon to be foreclosed home, driving a car not even worth half of what they paid, yet unable to comprehend that they advocate more of the same.

Give them one more credit card and they're happier than pigs in shit until they need another stimulus check.

Our service economy can no longer run on free credit and a yearly trillion dollar stimulus. The chickens are here to roost. Let em roost.

Neemo
 Rep: 485 

Re: White House dampens stimulus expectations

Neemo wrote:

the world needs to go to a moneyless system....you know...like star trek, everyone works to make the world a better place....fuck the money 16

that dude you posted tyler is a doom and gloom guy huh? holy crap he's full of good news 16 instead of worryiung about oil in the middle east they should bring everyone home its way past the point where the US can afford keeping the soldiers there

Saikin
 Rep: 109 

Re: White House dampens stimulus expectations

Saikin wrote:

On the topic of deficits and the way the government perceives them, I think it is hilarious (in a sick way) that as time goes on they keep changing their definition of them.  Way back when, any deficit and government debt wasn't considered good.  Then as our debt started growing at a huge rate, and people started panicking when they saw what they would have to pay back, the government changed to "as long as we can pay the interest the debt is not an issue,"... well, it doesn't even really look like we can make the interest payments on it without creating more. 16 

I'd say that's a problem Obama.  Another stimulus plan, with tons of wasteful spending, is going to create a bigger problem.

tejastech08
 Rep: 194 

Re: White House dampens stimulus expectations

tejastech08 wrote:
Saikin wrote:

well, it doesn't even really look like we can make the interest payments on it without creating more. 16

It truly is a laugh or cry scenario. I'll join you and laugh about it. It's fucking hysterical what we've gotten ourselves into over the last 75 years. 16

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: White House dampens stimulus expectations

James wrote:

We have to borrow from China and the Arabs to pay the interest on our debt to China and the Arabs. We have to do this so we don't collapse and they can keep their cheaply made goods in sweatshops in our stores so Joe and Jill can save a nickel that they don't have.

Only in America....

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