Jason Lives: FRIDAY THE 13TH

Axlin16

Damn, maybe I enjoyed Zombie Jason. My Top-5 Friday's are Part 4, Part 6, Part 8 (yep), FvJ, and Part 2.

I really enjoyed Part 8, as a fan of the TV series. Rob Hedden did it, and it felt like an episode of the TV series, with Jason as the guest star. I really liked it.

FvJ was solid, and very underrated imo. I always knew for years, that if Freddy & Jason ever matched up, it'd have to be total-camp, over the top, and even a bit comical. I always imagined it as Dream Master-Freddy vs. Jason Lives-Jason.

That's pretty much what I got. I enjoyed the music in the film, soundtrack & score. If I had to complain about anything, the supporting cast was awful. It would've helped maybe a few lines of a dialogue here and there be omitted, and recasting it from the top-to-bottom, with Monica "Overacts" Keena, Jason "I Laugh When People Die" Ritter, and Kelly "I Can't Act" Rowland. I also would've preferred Englund vs. Hodder.

But I still thought the film came out pretty bitchin'. I didn't have a problem with the camp - I always knew it would be.

-D-

Friday The 13th Jason Takes Manhatten sucks. Not as bad as Jason In Space though. WTF were they thinking!

James

The Lofton pharmacy is open this afternoon, which has put me in the mood to go watch this tonight.

Axlin16

That's what I should've done. If i'd got high, maybe I would've also thought "best film since The Final Chapter".

James

Axlin08 wrote:

That's what I should've done. If i'd got high, maybe I would've also thought "best film since The Final Chapter".

Thankfully, opiates don't make me "nutswing".

I have always been skeptical with this franchise since the initial franchise ran its course, but of course I am open minded each time they release a new one.

Your TCM analysis on this interests me, simply because I am not a huge fan of the TCM remake but did like its prequel.

Paxcow

James Lofton wrote:

The Lofton pharmacy is open this afternoon, which has put me in the mood to go watch this tonight.

don't watch it. it sucked ass. go see coraline instead. it's in 3-D. that makes for a better trip! tongue

James

99.9% of films I go to the theater to watch are horror. Horror translates well on the big screen and heightens the overall experience(good or bad).

Isn't Coraline a kids movie? I don't watch those types of films(no offense meant to those that do).

Von

I just want to chime in that Axlin08's condemning this movie while heralding the sacrilegious, franchise killing piece of shit known as Freddy vs. Jason is really puzzling. Freddy vs. Jason is a movie that fails on all levels, disrespectful of its source material and disrespectful of its audience. It features the series' worst characterization of Jason as a lumbering, Frankenstein's Monster-like creature who's afraid of water but ultimately just an antihero with mommy issues. Freddy, reinstated in his full creepy splendor for Wes Craven's New Nightmare, has been declawed and reverted back to a grimacing, catty, prime time TV host. The script is laughable on top of being pretty much nonexistent. The execution is below par if not for the Friday the 13th flicks, then for the unanimously well-produced Nightmare on Elm Street franchise. Ronny Yu is the worst person to helm either series, a shooter and not a director. The acting is unusually worse than it has to be. The characters suck asshole. The music blows, both the score and the nu metal soundtrack. So yeah, unfortunately Roadrunner Records Presents MTV's Freddy vs. Jason: A Self-Referencial Horror Parody That Pisses on the Altars of Your '80s Horror Heroes isn't my thing. This reboot gets everything right that New Line's previous three attempts at Jason, even the underrated JGTH, got wrong. And while it's not the best since the Final Chapter (I don't understand the hate for A New Beginning), it's one of the series' best entries overall and has rejuvenated interest in a character and a franchise in a way that even the gimmicky marketing of Freddy vs. Jason failed to do. Or we could go back to the $12 million total grosses of movies like Jason X.

Von

First off, I can't believe the reboot has a vote against it already. Second off, I think many horror fans put the very first flick on a pedestal it doesn't quite deserve. I'm not going to be surprised to see it making the final rounds because I'm used to people casually placing the first entry in any franchise as the best, but here it's simply not the case. That has nothing to do with Jason ultimately being the killer or not, it has to do with the film itself being derivative and lacking any real charm. The series didn't hit its stride until Part II, one of its better overall entries. I want to see who'll be the first to vote against Friday '80 so I can applaud them for their courage. However, I'm too busy trying to erase crap like Freddy vs. Jason from the list for the time being. Oh, and it will be gone soon.

James

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Wow. So much potential for this......unfortunately there was a toilet nearby.

Opening was too lame. Giving us the 30 second summary of Mrs. Voorhees was done with zero creativity, and had already been done in prior sequels.

The little "tell the entire tale around the campfire in as little detail as possible" angle has also been done before, and done better. Marijuana subplot lame, and this coming from someone who has smoked dope off and on for 20 years. It just wasn't necessary at all. When I began to lose all hope was hearing the incredibly uncreative, lame sex jokes by these clowns just minutes into the movie.

The first kill(which happens quick) brings you out of the impending boredom already setting in, but I could have lived without the apparent attempt at giving it an 80s feel or simply a nostalgia trip of Sister Christian playing leading up to the kill. That's the best you got?

Seriously?

That sex scene(and the dialogue) was comical, and not intentional. Was Zombie a ghost writer for this flick? Words of advice to anyone fucking in the woods.....

When you take a gang of friends with you, and your literally feet away from the same vicinity as they are, why are you shocked at the possibility that someone might hear or see you fucking?

Message to the writers of this script....

Fuck off, and if there's "layoffs" coming in the movie biz, I hope you're first on the chopping block.

Jason with the sack on his head is totally wasted. It was obviously thrown in there just for the hardcore fans of the series, and you only get millisecond glimpses of it, so why even bother?

Then the "real" story begins where the brother of one of the victims is there looking for his sister, and of course he runs into the next soon to be victims. During this, we are treated to several instances of a black guy spewing his mouth about "racial stereotypes" because of rap music in the span of a couple minutes.

This early in the film(around 20 minutes or so), my intelligence has been insulted several times already, the best example(or is it?) being when that hick who has been growing weed just simply asks a stranger if he wants to buy some weed. That DOESN"T happen in reality. When you have a field of marijuana basically growing in your backyard, you don't offer it for sale to every Tom, Dick, and Harry that walks up to your house..

Again, fuck off.

Jason finding the mask is ridiculous, and the least they could have done was create a decent build up to this scene. Of course they didn't though.

I don't care how much they want to 'humanize' Jason, there is no way in hell a killer like that would have just kidnapped that chick and kept her alive for weeks on end while killing others without mercy. She's only alive because her boyfriend said she looked like Jason's mother(how convenient) and she didn't have sex.

Please........

The dialogue during the second sex scenes is even worse....

"your tits are just so juicy dude, ya got perfect nipple placement".

I wasn't the only person who laughed at this absurdity.

Cool that Santogold's 'Shove It' was playing during this scene though.

Worst continuity error in the history of film takes place in the span of about 30 minutes. Begins with Trent and the brunette being a couple, and then he's fucking that blonde chick when she comes back and there's ZERO acknowledgment of this by anyone. Apparently they went from a couple to just someone she knows. Fucking pathetic, and I literally almost walked out in disgust because I can only handle so much dumbing down in one sitting.

This Asian guy is one of the most annoying characters I have had the displeasure of watching. I didn't care whether he lived or died. I just didn't care, period. Another comedic moment was when the black dude was head to head with Jason and said, "take that motherfucker", and barely even touched him. My 78 year old grandma could have hit him and it would have looked more believable.

The only thing slightly interesting about this movie was the attempt at humanizing Jason, especially in the first half. Then it just descends into typical slasher kills, and every scene is just so bogged down with drone actors and idiotic dialogue that the act of trying to give this new Jason a 'makeover' fails miserably so Jason literally strikes out his first time at bat.

Its like the film makers realize the country is so stupid on a mass scale that they don't even have to bother trying anymore.

I no longer care about this franchise. I will not be watching any sequels. I don't care if they get M.I.A., Natalie Portman, and/or anyone else I like to be in the cast, they can stick the inevitable sequel up their asses.

Only redeeming qualities of this F13 was its short duration, the fact Santogold made some cash from one of her songs being in the film, and the box of Milk Duds I ate during the first 20 minutes. Neither of those three things are what I look for in a horror film.

0/5

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