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- tejastech08
- Rep: 194
Re: It's over for McCain
Might as well make this prediction now....
Oprah Winfrey WILL be in an Obama administration. Not going to predict what cabinet position, but she will be there. Also don't be surprised if Jackson and Sharpton also get positions in his administration.
This is pathetic James. Surely you aren't that ignorant.
- tejastech08
- Rep: 194
Re: It's over for McCain
Obama's going to surround himself with Clinton Administration people. In fact, most of his advisers throughout the campaign, even when he was going against Hillary, were in Clinton's administration. Definitely NOT "change you can believe in," but also not a black takeover like you are so paranoid about.
- Communist China
- Rep: 130
Re: It's over for McCain
America will die in the hands of Obama.
That is a frustratingly short-sighted and ignorant thing to read.
Re: It's over for McCain
Randall you bring up some good points. First off, the "Could Obama take alot of the blame" aspect. First off, it's been said whoever won (McCain, Obama Hillary etc) may likely be a 1 term President. Possible, but on the other hand if the war ends & Economy picks up in 2-3 years whoever it is or could have been would likely get reelected anyway. But, if it gets worse will Obama get blamed for it. Personally, although he may lose a re-election bid, I think Bush will go down in history as the one being blamed for the 00's mess, not Obama. Unless he does alot stupid, then he may get blamed for basically making it worse, but he's a smart guy so I don't think he's make many overtly stupid decisions. People don't blame FDR for the Great Depression (note: I'm not comparing Barack to FDR, just making a statement), they moreso credit him for helping the nation get thru it. On the other hand, Jimmy Carter went down as a somewhat bad President even though some things were somewhat inherited & part of the times (oil, hostage crisis, inflation etc). Only time will tell. While I think you're exagerrating about "Nazi" type facists overruling our country, I think something more like a "prohibition" type rule could follow. I agree racists would blame the country for electing a "black President" who is to blame for everything... but I think the end result would be more like electing some crazy, right winged, Southern evangelical appealing Christian right wackjob to appeal to Republcans. Almost like a revenge-vote. Then, abortion is outlawed, an anti-foreigner reign takes control possibly violence against immigrants (Mexicans) maybe something else etc. I don't think it will become like the KKK being like Nazi soldiers, but I do think it's possible the wrong people get elected from the other end of the spectrum. Interesting thoughts, Possible, slightly, but not probable. But, on the other hand, it's possible the economy picks up in 2010, the war ceases & Iraq gov't takes over in 2010, the US frees up tons of money from spending & it's budget & 2011 is a great year for us. The Dow could hit 15,000 or 20,000. Then there's no way Obama isn't a 2-term President & the GOP really then needs to rethink it's agenda. Anythings possible.
James, first off, it's pretty preposterous to think Oprah, Jesse, AND Sharpton are ALL going to be in Obamas' cabinet. Personally, I'd say none of them will be. I know one of them doesn't like Barack, I think it's Jesse. And I think Obama doesn't like Sharpton very much. Plus, they're in it for the corporate money, not the power, I don't think they care if they are "in" politics or not, especially Sharpton. Oprahs possible, but it would likely be a domestic possition, more like a novelty (ie. Secretary of Education or Child enrichment), but his wife would likely take a role like that, as will Jill Biden. Before you say anything smart about them, did Laura Bush really do anything for this country??? and can anyone here name Dick Cheney's wifes' name?
Also, I think Hillary may be offered something like the Secretary of State role, if she wants it. She may turn down all cabinet positions in case she wants to run in 2012... just in case.
As for the original topic of the thread, I do think it may be McCains last chance to get some momentum. After this, people are pretty set in their ways.
Re: It's over for McCain
It's over, and I don't think the Electoral College will be close. At all. The third debate is just going to be a formality. I think Obama will even win some bizarre states, like Indiana, WV or Georgia.
James Carville pretty much summed it up: Absent any unforeseen circumstances... Call the dogs in, wet the fire and leave the house. The hunts over.
Re: It's over for McCain
McCain certaintly did better in the second debate than the first, but on it's best level - it was a tie.
That's simply not enough at this point with Obama starting to walk away.
McCain didn't wow on any level, and although I rarely agree with "The Ragin' Cajun", Mr. Carville is right. McCain is as dead in 2008 as the Chicago Cubs.
- tejastech08
- Rep: 194
Re: It's over for McCain
"That one!"
Major gaffe from McCain, similar to his lack of eye contact in the first debate. Otherwise the debate was pretty much even. It's all about who screws up more than who necessarily "wins" since both sides are just spouting talking points. But for some reason, McCain keeps using condescending snarkiness toward Obama, and it turns off a lot of undecided, independent voters.
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: It's over for McCain
James, come on. There is no way Obama is going to introduce those clowns into his administration. What credentials does Oprah have outside of being a talk show personality. Putting Oprah in any government position would be infinitely more naieve and dangerous than running Palin as a VP.
Obama's going to surround himself with a bunch of liberals and a token republican in name only. God forbid he get to appoint anyone to the supreme court, cause we'll have more morons like Ginsburg on the court who could give a shit about the constitution.
