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- A Private Eye
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Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
Prostitute, Ides of March, Seven, Oklahoma, Atlas Shrugged, Silkworms.....
Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
I like what i've heard. Do they live up to the hype that's been surrounding them for years? No, but look at what they're up against. The bar has been set pretty high by AFD and UYI. I think that's what alot of people were expecting, the next UYI.
You got to keep in mind that we have very little info on these songs (new and the ones from last year) We don't know the dates of these demos ( they could be from around 02 or as I like to call it, the helium era), or how many of these will actually make the final track list. A few of these songs might be rejects that won't make any of the albums.
I think overall that they're good and could definately compete with the stuff that's at the top of the rock charts now. It's no AFD or UYI but I still enjoy them. Even if you hate these new songs, I think there will be something for everyone on CD. I'm still as excited as I was in 1999 
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Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
or how many of these will actually make the final track list. A few of these songs might be rejects that won't make any of the albums.
I agree with you there, it's well documented that there are a couple albums worth of material. Some leaks could be the 2nd or 3rd albums worth of stuff. Who knows what the real heavyweights might hold, although I tend to think Better & CD are some of the better crop.
- NY Giants82
- Rep: 26
Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
These new songs just get better and better with each listen.
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Better - The most hit potential so far. It is also a little irritating in that it doesn't exploit its full potential. Several obvious hooks are basically missed, and that's kinda embarrassing after all these years. Axl got 3 guitar players, but that's something you gotta know because you definitely can't hear it. A couple of spots have improved though.
There Was A Time - Another 'great' tune. Cool intro, fine vocal melody and a blistering end solo and wail. Still, what the fuck? I'm hearing a great song being deliberately tinkered to death. A puzzle loose in the seams. Is it just me that's hearing more recent vocals on this one? Some change in the chorus guitar as well.
Unknown song - I've heard this one about 10 times so...it's pretty safe to say that it plain sucks. The first part of it is almost embarrassing. No, who am I kidding, it is embarrassing. The lyrics are pure cheese and Axl's sounding like one of those 90s prog artists with those womenish falsettos. Total cliche. The only good thing about this song is some of the little guitar work and the outro, which rocks. Still, I'll never ever play this to any of my friends that like gn'r. I don't have the conscience.
If The World - Finally a song as it should be. Not great by all means, but very good, very clean, very finished. Nice to have as an interlude on the album, on any album really. The whole band shines here.
IRS - One of the few songs that has improved for each leak. I've always liked this song. Not single material, but a good rockin' song. Great vocals and solos all around.
Madagascar - Great in its own right. Not the epic I thought it would be, but a lot of charm still. Flawless in structure and production, Axl sounds great.
The Blues - Flawless. Could become a big hit. The girls are gonna love this one, young and old. Best vocal display by Axl so far.
CD - Another great tune, and a great rocker. Should be the opener on the album and on tour. A modern classic in gn'r terms. The intro is simply massive.
Rhiayd - As I suspected the studio version of this song would kick ass. Different than I thought, but all in all very cool. Suffers a bit from the Better/Twat syndrome. Opportunities are wasted.
Individually the songs all have good qualities, except for crapfest named 2 many of them could justly be deemed 'very good', and one or two even great. But to have all of these holes of missed opportunities makes you wonder what these 10 or so years have been spent doing. The most obvious being, where's the guitar? Where's that crunching, hard hitting guns n roses guitar? Sure, at times, but not nearly often enough for a comeback album from a band once labeled most dangerous in the world. Ballads are good and all, but it should be like 2 or 3 of them to every 10 hard song, not the other way around. It can still be salvaged if the remaining unleaked stuff is mint, but at the present we're looking at a slightly too mellow of an album with rough edges.
- NY Giants82
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^^ Nice write up there polluxm. I have to strongly disagree with you on the unamed song though. I think its great. But we agree on just about everything else. I think The Blues has an opportunity to be a smash song, absolutely huge.
- Communist China
- Rep: 130
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Bono made a point to me earlier that I'm going to bring up again - what people like about Guns is really spread out. Jimmy mentioned a song like TWAT trying to be like Estranged but it's not - and, imo, TWAT is everything Estranged should have been but wasn't. So don't get violent over song #2 or If The World, which seems to be close to happening.
If The World I haven't heard as lounge or porn music until I read people saying that. I still disagree completely, but it's an interesting criticism. I think it's a song that hits the sexual groove and deeper meaning that Axl seemed so into with the industrial movement in the 90s.
I think this album will be great. It's already met my expectations. If it has one more CD or Riyadh type song I'll be pretty satisfied for the price of the album, anyways.
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I can't believe that "If the World" is part of that catchy jam they played at the concert. That song gets better every time I've listened to it.
It's nice to be back posting on the boards, I've been completely dis-infranchised since the end of the last tour. I just am consistantly embarrassed being a fan of this band, so much potential to be really significant, and it has been thrown away at every chance.
That being said, I don't think these leaks will jumpstart anything, I've been down that path before. But for the next while, there are 9 songs solely on my Ipod, and I'm just going to enjoy good music.
- Mikkamakka
- Rep: 217
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After one listen... it's a mess, and not a good one. I love Dream Theater where a lot of going on, but the new songs (and I'm talking about the brand new ones) clearly prove that Axl really lacks good ideas. Don't get me wrong, they tried everything... It's clear that they worked very hard on the songs... but if you don't have a good idea, then don't put another 3 keyboards line, just to try to find something that's absolutely missing... Riyadh is such a lame-ass 80s Back Off Bitch copy with some modern elements added to sound 'up-to-date'...sorry Axl, you missed it. As for This I Love(????)...it's totally uninspired bullshit. I can't recall a single moment from the song. If The World is the best of the bunch, although I'm a bit sick of mid-temp Nu-GN'R songs... Anyway, it's good. Far from mind-blowing, but good eoungh and interesting. Unfortunately it seems that Axl had one classic song (TWAT), a great one (Better), some good enough (If The World, CD), but the rest is mediocre at best.
Axl...if you're into 'modern music', then why can't you leave behing the 80s cheese? This album will be a huge disappointment and will tank. And I'm not happy to say this, cause I wanted Axl to succeed... but he's not enough to achieve his goals.
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Re: Overall feelings on the CD era songs....
We don't know the dates of these demos ( they could be from around 02 or as I like to call it, the helium era),
Pretty obvious these are from the 2001-04 era. Makes me happy as a pig in shit. I care nothing about the BBF/Frank era of the band.
Message to hoarders: Keep the BBF/Frank tracks until doomsday. Just give us steady leaks of the BH era.
