The General and Monsters

Bill Brasky

Shacklermyrye wrote:

Scabbie wrote:
jimmythegent wrote:
Any chance this thread could be discussion about the actual songs/music rather than arguments about who leaked what?
Yes please, I feel there should be a separate section for this type of stuff.
yeah discord or badapples

So you would rather remain with your head in the sand ?

James

Axl S wrote:

Big part of what makes a song great is also the context it's hears in. When you hear it, how you hear it, how it's presented and also where you are at in your life.
Get all this music out closer to when it's written and it will all hit different.
The General frankly sounds really dated, I dig it but musically it's style is well ... early 00s. It's fun to listen to but it would have been enjoyed a lot better if it came out in 02-04.

Yeah this all would've went down so much better in my mid-late 20s. While none of it is really cruising type of music, I definitely would've been cruising down McHenry with these songs blaring.

Love em or hate em...in the 2020s these songs are verging on being novelties....

The deflated myth balloon, the dated nature of the material, the horrid production/mixing issues, the vibe that it's coming to an end, and the drip feed which doesn't even allow them to be taken in as a whole.

They couldn't compile these songs into an album without am entirely new mix being done. They are too all over the place. It would be the most abrasive record ever released.

Chinese Democracy should have been something like this

Here's mine...

Chinese Democracy
Better
IRS
Sorry
Madagascar
The General
Monsters
Riad
Catcher In The Rye
Arlas Shrugged
There Was A Time
If The World
Prostitute

I would probably remove Prostitute for Street of Dreams.

Then all the left over songs could have been the b sides of the CD singles

In 2002 onstage he said the album would be 18 tracks + 10 B sides.

That's exactly what it should've been. It would've wrapped it all up nice and neat with only a small handful of unheard songs remaining.

James

Bill Brasky wrote:

Shacklermyrye wrote:
Scabbie wrote:
Yes please, I feel there should be a separate section for this type of stuff.
yeah discord or badapples
So you would rather remain with your head in the sand ?

It probably has more to do with wanting to discuss the actual songs that just leaked instead of who may or may not have songs and the drama surrounding Village Sessions discords.

It was always a niche group into that stuff (me included obviously) and that group is shrinking as we enter the final chapter.

Bill Brasky

James wrote:

Bill Brasky wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:
yeah discord or badapples
So you would rather remain with your head in the sand ?
It probably has more to do with wanting to discuss the actual songs that just leaked instead of who may or may not have songs and the drama surrounding Village Sessions discords.
It was always a niche group into that stuff (me included obviously) and that group is shrinking as we enter the final chapter.

Then thoses people should never complain about the hoarders if they are just going to sit on the sidelines.

misterID

I’ve tried, the hoarders won’t deal

misterID

Chinese Democracy should’ve been this and we could have got a shitload of music and everyone could have moved on

Disk One Disk Two
1. Chinese Democracy 1. The General
2. TWAT 2. Soul Monster
3. Better 3. Atlas Shrugged
4. The Blues 4. Perhaps
5. Riad 5. Hard Skool
6. IRS 6. Quick Song
7. Prostitute 7. Seven
8. Shackler’s 8. Catcher
9. Scraped. 9. State of Grace
10. Thyme 10. Going Down
11. This I Love 11. Zodiac
12. Maddy 12. Oklahoma
13. If The World 13. Sorry

Axl S

He had a double album and some odda and ends. For a double you only need 6-8 singles too

CD
Better
Street of Dreams
Hard School
Atlas Shrugged
Perhaps
IRS
This I Love

There's your singles too , to promote the thing over a 2-4 year span

Tmgladden

misterID wrote:

Chinese Democracy should’ve been this and we could have got a shitload of music and everyone could have moved on
Disk One Disk Two
1. Chinese Democracy 1. The General
2. TWAT 2. Soul Monster
3. Better 3. Atlas Shrugged
4. The Blues 4. Perhaps
5. Riad 5. Hard Skool
6. IRS 6. Quick Song
7. Prostitute 7. Seven
8. Shackler’s 8. Catcher
9. Scraped. 9. State of Grace
10. Thyme 10. Going Down
11. This I Love 11. Zodiac
12. Maddy 12. Oklahoma
13. If The World 13. Sorry

Trade out quick song an catcher for me and my Elvis an mustache an then you gotta deal

FlashFlood

It wasn’t a double album from 99-01. Songs like better, soul monster, the general, scraped, sorry and maybe even if the world would be on the second disc. Time went by and they borrowed from the second album by 08.

dave-gnfnr

FlashFlood wrote:

It wasn’t a double album from 99-01. Songs like better, soul monster, the general, scraped, sorry and maybe even if the world would be on the second disc. Time went by and they borrowed from the second album by 08.

If the world was always set to be on the first disc
Even before if the world leaked out there was a rumored CD track listing that listed "IF" as one of the songs

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