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Shacklermyrye
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

James wrote:

One more thing on that subject (CITR-Checkmate clips)....


They realized that they were allowing too many people access to these clips to shop around for more tracks. Instead of acquiring more tracks under the table with these clips....they started getting leaked instead.

After that fiasco...they stopped using other people for this and kept it in their inner circle.

Makes sense, I'd love to know names of other tracks that are out there in private hands.
Specifically the early stuff from 1998, I know that Oklahoma is out there but i wonder if Ides Of March is. Dave Dominguez told Sp1at that those two were the most finished and given he started there in January and left seven months later there must have been pretty complete versions between January and July of 1998.

According to the NY Times In 1998 studio technicians were burning as many as five CD's per week with various mixes of different songs to play Axl. I find it hard to believe none of them ever ripped any of that stuff.

We have no idea how much of that stuff is really out there sat on someones shelf or in someones locker.

slashsfro
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

slashsfro wrote:
James wrote:

The passage of time and how its perception changes is a mind blowing and frightening aspect of aging.

Yep.  And related to this some memories from childhood remain crystal clear and you can remember them in full detail while if you asked me what I had for lunch last week, I couldn't tell you.

I don't know if I've said this but the leaks saga for CD might be more interesting than the music itself.  Cheers to those who remember details from these things from 20-25 years ago.

Axl S
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

Axl S wrote:
James wrote:

Oh there was definitely more to that leak.

Hell...the Chairman even admitted this with the "more rasp" line.

There was also other trades going on at the same time.

We all know who the Chairman is right? It's fairly common knowledge who was writing those poems and who was supplying the tracks.

Are we allowed to say in public?

Based on who it is - I'd be surprised if they were holding on to more material given their pre-2019 track record.

FlashFlood
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

FlashFlood wrote:
Axl S wrote:
James wrote:

Oh there was definitely more to that leak.

Hell...the Chairman even admitted this with the "more rasp" line.

There was also other trades going on at the same time.

We all know who the Chairman is right? It's fairly common knowledge who was writing those poems and who was supplying the tracks.

Are we allowed to say in public?

Based on who it is - I'd be surprised if they were holding on to more material given their pre-2019 track record.

No clue. Pittman?

ClaudeF
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

ClaudeF wrote:
Axl S wrote:
James wrote:

Oh there was definitely more to that leak.

Hell...the Chairman even admitted this with the "more rasp" line.

There was also other trades going on at the same time.

We all know who the Chairman is right? It's fairly common knowledge who was writing those poems and who was supplying the tracks.

Are we allowed to say in public?

Based on who it is - I'd be surprised if they were holding on to more material given their pre-2019 track record.

Let’s not say here. If you know who it is, you probably also know he/she/they (let’s keep it vague) happen to be a terrific person and don’t deserve any unwanted public attention. Especially from anyone on the TB payroll.

Chairman, if you’re reading this, thank you. You gave us all a final, wonderful blast of fun before the world shut down.

James
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

James wrote:
Axl S wrote:
James wrote:

Oh there was definitely more to that leak.

Hell...the Chairman even admitted this with the "more rasp" line.

There was also other trades going on at the same time.

We all know who the Chairman is right? It's fairly common knowledge who was writing those poems and who was supplying the tracks.

Are we allowed to say in public?

Based on who it is - I'd be surprised if they were holding on to more material given their pre-2019 track record.


Yeah I thought everyone knew who it is... although Flash doesn't so maybe the news didn't travel everywhere.


It's darknemus.


I'd be surprised if they were holding on to more material


Really?!?

If someone at his level in the saga has nothing, nobody has anything and the whole thing is smoke and mirrors.

FlashFlood
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

FlashFlood wrote:

Oh jesus christ Darknemus. Good for him, done a lot for the community. But still probably Pittman! (Half joking.)

monkeychow
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

monkeychow wrote:
-Jack- wrote:

Crazy to think it’s been this way since I was in middle school XD. The one thing in life that hasn’t changed is CD and new material speculation

It's insane really, there's self landing rockets, autonomous cars, AI computers that can freely chat with us, yet here we are still waiting for songs from 1999.

guts
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Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

guts wrote:
James wrote:
ClaudeF wrote:
FlashFlood wrote:

If I’m Axl, I’d want the original The General out there before the Slash/Duff version. Have your cake and eat it.

Damned right. I want the original, too.

As Detective Columbo, my mom’s favorite TV character, used to say, just one more thing:

“It is widely assumed that I’m likely to have access to more leaks. I don’t. I’m not a hoarder, and I don’t care to have anything I can’t share. I know that there are about ten more Guns N’ Roses songs floating around among outsiders, but I forget the working titles that I had been given, and I forget the name of one guy I met that had them. I’m not just saying that; I really do forget these details. I didn’t care, because they did me no good. What I’ve heard left me somewhat impressed, as I recall, but I’ve heard no new songs more than once, and none all the way through. I can barely remember how they went. I do not have a photographic memory.”

The second disc of Chinese Democracy is circulating.

How do we hear it? What will it take?

These are direct questions to those who have already sat on the tracks for a decade.

I'm pretty damn sure there was a second skwerl disc...sounds like this was quickly retconned.

Either way...he mentions enough songs for the second disc.

Yeah... CD II has been circulating for eons... almost as long as CD.


Jarmo from the GNR fansite Here Today… Gone To Hell came across news of the leak. He immediately notified Fernando Santos, who checked it out, and then did a Whois lookup on Antiquiet.com to get my phone number so he could talk tough to me.”

It's funny and pathetic when one of the people who had already heard everything goes and tattletales because he doesn't believe the lowly plebs are worthy of listening to what he was already listening to.

Hell...he's still doing it! He criticizes anyone getting impatient for new material.


Yeah there's a shit ton of discs...many obviously overlapping.

Don't forget the "Classic Rock disc". They got to hear a disc containing Atlas Shrugged and Silkworms.


Some of what was on there may have been trade worthy - who knows maybe it did happen and those folk are keeping quiet and holding on to those tracks too.

Oh there was definitely more to that leak.

Hell...the Chairman even admitted this with the "more rasp" line.

There was also other trades going on at the same time.

Its funny that you mention someone taletelling people out because now I'm starting to think whoever has the rest of the material, GNR management contacted them saying if you post these songs online, there will be legal repercussions.

Why else would those songs still not be posted online to this day?

No other reasons make sense lol.

If I could hear Soul Monster, The General, or Seven in some form I would be content. Hearing all the other songs would be a bonus.

Axl S
 Rep: 112 

Re: If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you?

Axl S wrote:
James wrote:
Axl S wrote:
James wrote:

Oh there was definitely more to that leak.

Hell...the Chairman even admitted this with the "more rasp" line.

There was also other trades going on at the same time.

We all know who the Chairman is right? It's fairly common knowledge who was writing those poems and who was supplying the tracks.

Are we allowed to say in public?

Based on who it is - I'd be surprised if they were holding on to more material given their pre-2019 track record.


Yeah I thought everyone knew who it is... although Flash doesn't so maybe the news didn't travel everywhere.


It's darknemus.


I'd be surprised if they were holding on to more material


Really?!?

If someone at his level in the saga has nothing, nobody has anything and the whole thing is smoke and mirrors.


Based on his track record I would guess it would have found its way out by now. Only reason I could see Nemus holding stuff from what I know of him is if he wanted to trade it for more.

That said, I know of three tracks he might have but that's only if something that I think was bullshit was actually real...

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