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Re: Hard Skool: Does it date from ‘96?
What exactly are we basing the idea that Axl was open to a reunion in 2006 on?
If Axl wanted an apology he got it when Slash came to his house. There's no other way to interpret a man begging through the housekeeper. In his press release relating to the incident, he said he hoped Slash would live up to his words but that this proved to not be the case.
I think it is obvious Slash came to his house looking to come back in the band. Axl saw it as him just apologizing and was moving ahead with his own band. When Slash realized it had not worked, he returned back to his previous role as an "enemy", which apparently pissed Axl off to no end, feeling betrayed for a second time.
I don't see a reunion happening here. I see Slash and probably a few others angling for a reunion. If they had played it down instead, after the apology, it is possible a reunion could have happened in 07/08 when Axl's second comeback had obviously failed and Robin quit the band.
Re: Hard Skool: Does it date from ‘96?
We can exclude all fan speculation and theories and there's still evidence...
Both Weiland and Halfin said it was on like Donkey Kong. This wasn't said with hindsight...they said it summer/fall 2005.
There was also rumblings of Download 2006 being headlined by a reunited GNR.
There was also that show the Stones wanted a reunited GNR to open for....which is conveniently dropped after we find out it's new GNR.
Various dots connected by fans...
Odd timing of the canceled 2 disc GH.
The logos/banners promoting 2006 tour revolved around old band photos/logos.
The fact that in the weeks leading up to Hammerstein, the two slots that Slash and Duff would be in are conveniently open til the last second.
I also don't think Izzy being on standby is a coincidence either. Whatever went down between Slash, Duff, and Axl didn't involve him.
- davegnfnr2k
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Re: Hard Skool: Does it date from ‘96?
Axl was trying to get BH up until the last week of Hammerstein shows in 2006
Re: Hard Skool: Does it date from ‘96?
Slash going to Axl's house was October 2005. By the nature of that conversation there was no reunion on at that point. If Weiland and Co are talking about a reunion months before that it's because they know Slash is aiming for one. It can't be much else. If Duff was part of those conversations Slash threw him under the bus when he talked to Beta.
One thing we know for certain is that Slash did something to piss off Axl. And it was right after that early 2006 interview where Axl said he still had love for Slash. Shortly after that the Axl camp revealed what had happened in October 2005 to try and use it against Slash. Apparently in 2009 Axl was still calling Slash a cancer best avoided. He went from "still love the guy" to that.
Now whatever Slash did, it doesn't seem probable that Axl had given any hint of reunion, because why would he mess that up?
If there were rumours in the industry about an impending reunion and people start to expect it, giving him offers, and Axl is really trying to relaunch his new band, you can imagine why he is royally pissed at Slash for starting those rumors. Then the best of album falls apart because there is no way for them to agree on anything anymore.
That seems more plausible than Axl, Slash and Duff agreeing on a reunion which somehow deteriorates into Slash throwing Duff under the bus and then manage to piss off Axl to the extent he publicly calls him a cancer 3 years later. He would have to fuck his girlfriend or something for that to happen, or sue him, something he would obviously not do if any reunion was even remotely possible.
Re: Hard Skool: Does it date from ‘96?
We can exclude all fan speculation and theories and there's still evidence...
Both Weiland and Halfin said it was on like Donkey Kong. This wasn't said with hindsight...they said it summer/fall 2005.
There was also rumblings of Download 2006 being headlined by a reunited GNR.
There was also that show the Stones wanted a reunited GNR to open for....which is conveniently dropped after we find out it's new GNR.
Various dots connected by fans...
Odd timing of the canceled 2 disc GH.
The logos/banners promoting 2006 tour revolved around old band photos/logos.
The fact that in the weeks leading up to Hammerstein, the two slots that Slash and Duff would be in are conveniently open til the last second.
I also don't think Izzy being on standby is a coincidence either. Whatever went down between Slash, Duff, and Axl didn't involve him.
You do raise some very interesting points here. Especially the two open slots for Hammerstein is a very intriguing theory. But probably a bit of a stretch. I think Tommy was just mad and initially hadn't wanted to be there because of the last minute addition of Bumblefoot. He was the musical director of the band and probably worked hard on making the Robin/Richard version work.
I don't see a hybrid reunion with Slash, Robin & Richard + Duff instead of Tommy back then.
Also didn't Axl's press release mention Slash calling Duff "spineless"? Makes me wonder if it was only Slash aiming for that reunion back then and Duff wanted to stay with Scott at that point
- Miguelox26
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Re: Hard Skool: Does it date from ‘96?
The possible reunion in 2006 would have been no big deal as we have seen from 2016 onwards!....slash and duff would have recorded their parts as contributions and nothing else!...in fact that's what they are currently doing!....musicians from axl's command!...and live fink,bumblefoot and fortus played better chinese material!....what would the reunion have been for? ...there's nothing to stop them from writing together and we still wonder what would have come out of that ipotetic reunion?.... easy!...nothing!.... there's no music or chemistry and the reunion has postponed chinese 2 and on top of that it will be re-recorded with the dubious contributions of slash and duff!.... the success killed the group because it conditions them commercially and creatively! Axl should have buried the name guns and called his work something else!....buckethead was the right guy and wanted to drop the weight of the name!....changed the name axl could have released all the material they had and onrar to the piece of band he had!....josh freese,robin fink,tommy stinson,paul huge,pitman,dizzy reed,buckethead and axl!...that was the band!.....
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Re: Hard Skool: Does it date from ‘96?
Porque no escribes en inglés ?
Así todo el mundo te entiende y te puede responder?
La posible reunion en 2006 no habria sido gran cosa como hemos visto desde 2016 en adelante!....slash y duff habrian grabado sus partes como aportes y nada mas!...de echo es lo que estan haciendo actualmente!....musicos de seciones al mando de axl!...y en directo fink,bumblefoot y fortus tocaban mejor el material de chinese!....para que la reunion?...no hay nada que les impida componer juntos y todabia nos preguntamos que habria salido de esa ipotetica reunion?....facil!...nada!....no hay musa ni quimica y la reunion a postergado el chinese 2 y de colmo sera regrabado con los dudosos aportes de slash y duff!....el exito mato al grupo por que los condiciona comercialmente y creativamente! Axl debio enterrar el nombre de guns y haber llamado su obra de otra manera!....buckethead era el tipo indicado y queria soltar el peso del nombre!....cambiado el nombre axl podria aver sacado todo el material que tenian y onrar a la pedazo de banda que tenia!....josh freese,robin fink,tommy stinson,paul huge,pitman,dizzy reed,buckethead y axl!...esa era la banda!.....
- metallex78
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Re: Hard Skool: Does it date from ‘96?
Can you guys please post in English. These Spanish posts are getting annoying.
Re: Hard Skool: Does it date from ‘96?
The possible reunion in 2006 would have been no big deal as we have seen from 2016 onwards!....slash and duff would have recorded their parts as contributions and nothing else!...in fact that's what they are currently doing!....musicians from axl's command!...and live fink,bumblefoot and fortus played better chinese material!....what would the reunion have been for? ...there's nothing to stop them from writing together and we still wonder what would have come out of that ipotetic reunion?.... easy!...nothing!.... there's no music or chemistry and the reunion has postponed chinese 2 and on top of that it will be re-recorded with the dubious contributions of slash and duff!.... the success killed the group because it conditions them commercially and creatively! Axl should have buried the name guns and called his work something else!....buckethead was the right guy and wanted to drop the weight of the name!....changed the name axl could have released all the material they had and onrar to the piece of band he had!....josh freese,robin fink,tommy stinson,paul huge,pitman,dizzy reed,buckethead and axl!...that was the band!.....
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