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James
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Re: Obama expands lead over Hillary in California

James wrote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama opened narrow leads on Hillary Clinton in California and Missouri one day before crucial "Super Tuesday" nominating contests in 24 states, according to a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll released on Monday.

In the Republican race, Arizona Sen. John McCain solidified his double-digit leads over Mitt Romney in New York and New Jersey, but Romney expanded his lead in California, the biggest prize on "Super Tuesday."

Obama and Clinton were deadlocked in New Jersey, and Obama enjoyed a double-digit advantage over Clinton in Georgia in two other Democratic contests on the biggest single day of voting ever in a U.S. presidential nominating campaign.

Obama, an Illinois senator, and Clinton, a New York senator, have waged a bitter duel for the Democratic presidential nomination, competing for votes from coast to coast after splitting the first four significant contests.

"The momentum is with Obama," said pollster John Zogby. "If this trend continues it could be a very big night for him."

Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, led McCain 40 percent to 32 percent in California, where the margin of error was 3.3 percentage points. A win in California, the most populous state, could help puncture McCain's growing momentum in the Republican nomination fight.

McCain won the last two contests, in South Carolina and Florida, to seize the front-runner's slot in a hard-fought Republican race despite qualms among some conservatives about his past views on taxes, immigration and campaign finance.

"Romney is widening his lead in California and has a really big advantage with conservatives," Zogby said. "Romney winning California would give some Republicans pause when they look at McCain as the potential nominee."

Romney said he would cut short a scheduled trip to Georgia and fly back to California on Monday for a last-minute campaign visit.

'A GOOD SHOT'

"People there are taking a real close look at the race and it looks like I've got a good shot there," Romney told reporters.

In Missouri, McCain leads former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee by 35 percent to 27 percent, with Romney in third place at 24 percent. The margin of error was 3.4 percentage points.

"Huckabee and Romney are splitting the anti-McCain vote in states like Missouri," Zogby said.

The Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby rolling tracking poll surveyed presidential races in both parties in California, New Jersey and Missouri. The polls also looked at the Republican race in New York and the Democratic race in Georgia. Polling will continue for one more night.

In California, Obama gained two points on Clinton overnight to lead 46 percent to 40 percent, with a margin of error of 3.2 percentage points. Obama wiped out a 1-point Clinton advantage in Missouri to take a 47 percent to 42 percent lead, with a margin of error of 3.4 percentage points.

The two rivals were deadlocked at 43 percent in New Jersey, with 10 percent still undecided. Obama had a 17-point edge in Georgia, aided by a more than 3-to-1 edge among black voters.

Both Democrats continued to build a strong base of support, with Clinton favored by women, Hispanics and elderly voters and Obama favored by blacks, men and young voters.

The new poll found McCain, who could be on the path to the Republican nomination with a strong performance on Tuesday, doubling Romney's support in New Jersey and doing even better in New York.

All of the presidential contenders are aiming on Tuesday to win a big share of the national convention delegates who choose the nominees. More than half of the total Democratic delegates are up for grabs on Tuesday, and about 40 percent of the Republican delegates.

The rolling polls in all five states were taken Friday through Sunday with samples ranging from 835 likely Republican voters in New Jersey to 967 likely Democratic voters in California.

In a rolling poll, the most recent day's results are added while the oldest day's results are dropped in order to track changing momentum.

Re: Obama expands lead over Hillary in California

I think this is more media hype than anything for Obama.   They fucking love him.   We'll see the results once the polls close on Tuesday and I don't think they are going to reflect a lot of what this article is saying..

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: Obama expands lead over Hillary in California

James wrote:
Jimmy Zig Zag Bobiadis wrote:

I think this is more media hype than anything for Obama.   They fucking love him.   We'll see the results once the polls close on Tuesday and I don't think they are going to reflect a lot of what this article is saying..

I agree that a lot of the Obama machine is media fabricated, but it does look like it is swinging his way. While he may stand for some things on his website, he just talks in circles on the campaign trail promising "change". A few days ago, Hillary took a stand on universal health care and I think its gonna bite her on the ass. She said that she might(meaning she will) deduct the money needed from everyones paycheck. While I think this country needs(and can handle) a tax increase to get us out of this Bush mess, I do think adding taxes AND deducting our paychecks for health care (which isn't even really guaranteed) is NOT gonna go over well with voters. Had this info got out when the primaries first started, we would already be calling him President Obama. I am actually considering changing my vote.

If this does derail her campaign, her political career is finished. Seriously. It will be the second time that she tried to get the country under the universal health care umbrella and it was a catastrophic failure. People still make fun of her last attempt to do it, and there's just no way she can survive it happening again.

I am not against Universal Health Care, but I am against it being sucked out of every paycheck of mine to pay for someone else to go to the doctor.

She is basically advocating a Social Security type program--pay into the system now so others can have health care and just hope that the system is still in place when you need a doctor. Fuck that. I'm not paying for a doctor unless I need one.

The government cannot scam the people like this for universal health care. For decades, the excuse has been "there's no money for it". Bullshit. That was believable until we walked into Iraq carrying a blank check.

Here's my Universal Health Care plan--- get out of Iraq, there's your free health care. The health care will cost less than that war. MUCH less. The government shot themselves in the foot by the Iraq War. Other than killing a bunch of people, the war proved that the government can now spend the money on pet projects they claim that we "have no money for".

When you can whip out a trillion bucks for a war, you can whip out a couple hundred billion for health care without taking it out of my check.

polluxlm
 Rep: 221 

Re: Obama expands lead over Hillary in California

polluxlm wrote:

They didn't just whip out the money for the war. The government doesn't have those kind of savings. You are their saving. You paid for the war, through tax and inflation.

The people are the governments money, and they pay for everything one way or the other.

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: Obama expands lead over Hillary in California

James wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

They didn't just whip out the money for the war. The government doesn't have those kind of savings. You are their saving. You paid for the war, through tax and inflation.

The people are the governments money, and they pay for everything one way or the other.

We don't have the money they whipped out, which is why this country is now up shit creek without a paddle.

My point is if they feel they can finance an unnecessary war with that kind of dough, then they can finance universal health care with only 20% of the money it took for that war.

I may actually have to vote for Obama. I'm tired of paying for everything that other people need. The Bush spending has sent us over the edge, and Hillary deducting our wages on top of the inevitable tax increases is fucking insane.

Neemo
 Rep: 485 

Re: Obama expands lead over Hillary in California

Neemo wrote:

when do they actually decide who's gonna run for the presidency...I mean in a near recession these massive election campaigns seem a bit much hmm

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: Obama expands lead over Hillary in California

James wrote:
Neemo wrote:

when do they actually decide who's gonna run for the presidency...I mean in a near recession these massive election campaigns seem a bit much hmm

It happens every time. Hundreds of millions can be spent in an election cycle. As far as when it will end, McCain will pretty much have the republican nomination wrapped up Tuesday if he wins most of the states up for grabs that day. The democratic primary could go until the next big tuesday(in a few weeks) as it seems really close between the two. Theoretically it could go up until the convention, but not likely. It rarely happens. Within the next couple months the "real" campaign will start between McCain against Hillary or Obama.

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

Re: Obama expands lead over Hillary in California

PaSnow wrote:
Jameslofton wrote:

Here's my Universal Health Care plan--- get out of Iraq, there's your free health care. The health care will cost less than that war. MUCH less.

I agree with you James. And I really hope Romney doesn't win many states, especially California, that'll be a big win.


Neemo, the party (Republican or Democrat) nominee needs to win a certain amount or percent of delegates (representatives per state, bigger states have more delegates). It should be wrapped up by mid-March/April. Republicans (McCain) probably sooner. The Conventions (Big parties/rallies) are usually in the summer, July or August. Then the "Official" general election begins until early Novembers election day. Then the winner takes office around January 20th. So we won't see the new President take office for about another year.

James
 Rep: 664 

Re: Obama expands lead over Hillary in California

James wrote:

This morning's CNN poll Obama the national lead over Hillar...the first time ever that Obama has led in a major national poll, though the result is still technically a statistical dead heat. Here are the numbers, compared to the last poll from just over two weeks ago:

Obama 49% (+16)
Clinton 46% (+4)

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Now we know where Edwards support is going.

Hillary looks to be in trouble. We'll have to see Tuesday how correct these polls are.

Von
 Rep: 77 

Re: Obama expands lead over Hillary in California

Von wrote:

Obama for the win. Jonny von Doom has planted the seed and he will see the harvest.

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