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RFK tho wasn't 'just' his brother. He was an experienced DOJ attorney when he was appointed to Attorney General by his brother. Nepotism in part, but he was very experienced and qualified. Hillarry was more an involved First Lady than nepotism. Ivanka hasn't done anything except put her fathers last name onto overpriced shoes made in China.
One other thing that bothers me, is how this goes against everything Trump campaigned upon. I swear there was a debate question where they were asked about Middle East involvement and Hillary answered "Well, we'll have to look at it on a case by case basis, evaluate what happened and what our involvement and response should be." Sounds logical. Well I swear Donald Trump was asked the same thing, and he responded with "Heck no, if it doesn't involve America we shouldn't be getting involved over there." and his supporters would eat it up. He campaigned on such a simpleton agenda of building a wall, deporting immigrants, and minding our own business that he literally had no foreign policy, he was an isolationist.
It's complicated. Hillary admitted such and was straight up honest about it, Trump swore it was easy peasy, just don't bomb them until they bomb us "America!" and the crowds cheered. Well it was all a sham. It's not easy, and here we are, less than 100 days in, and he's changed his tune already.
Re: US Politics Thread
RFK tho wasn't 'just' his brother. He was an experienced DOJ attorney when he was appointed to Attorney General by his brother. Nepotism in part, but he was very experienced and qualified. Hillarry was more an involved First Lady than nepotism. Ivanka hasn't done anything except put her fathers last name onto overpriced shoes made in China.
One other thing that bothers me, is how this goes against everything Trump campaigned upon. I swear there was a debate question where they were asked about Middle East involvement and Hillary answered "Well, we'll have to look at it on a case by case basis, evaluate what happened and what our involvement and response should be." Sounds logical. Well I swear Donald Trump was asked the same thing, and he responded with "Heck no, if it doesn't involve America we shouldn't be getting involved over there." and his supporters would eat it up. He campaigned on such a simpleton agenda of building a wall, deporting immigrants, and minding our own business that he literally had no foreign policy, he was an isolationist.
It's complicated. Hillary admitted such and was straight up honest about it, Trump swore it was easy peasy, just don't bomb them until they bomb us "America!" and the crowds cheered. Well it was all a sham. It's not easy, and here we are, less than 100 days in, and he's changed his tune already.
Yea...it's pretty messed up...to some degree all politicians do this but there doesn't appear to be anything he promised in the works and if he has to raise taxes to build that wall I'm just wondering how well that will go over.
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Hey remember when all those crybaby Republicans were in a constant state of anger over Obama traveling/golfing/doing anything?
Today with Trump? Just like anything else they're completely OK with now...Crickets...
Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year
Washington (CNN)Donald Trump's travel to his private club in Florida has cost over an estimated $20 million in his first 80 days as president, putting the president on pace in his first year of office to surpass former President Barack Obama's spending on travel for his entire eight years.
The outsized spending on travel stands in stark relief to Trump's calls for belt tightening across the federal government and the fact that he regularly criticized Obama for costing the American taxpayer money every time he took a trip.
Given variations in each trip, estimating the security costs around a presidential trip is difficult. But a 2016 Government Accountability Office report about a four-day trip Obama took to Florida in 2013 -- one similar to Trump's trips -- found the total cost to the Secret Service and Coast Guard was $3.6 million.
To date, Trump has spent six weekends -- and a total of 21 days -- at Mar-A-Lago, his private Palm Beach club. The total estimated costs for those trips are around $21.6 million.
Obama, by contrast, spent just under $97 million on travel in his eight years as president, according to documents reviewed by Judicial Watch, a conservative government watchdog. These trips included personal trips - including ski trips to Aspen and the Obama's annual family vacation in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts -- and work trips, like a visit to Everglades National Park on Earth Day in 2015.
Trump's frequent weekend travel makes it all but certain the 45th President will surpass Obama's spending in his first term, likely within months.
The spending comes as Trump asks the federal government to slash non-defense spending by $54 billion, including deep cuts to the State Department, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Environmental Protection Agency and the wholesale elimination of other federal programs. The proposed cuts, which are unlikely to be adopted in total, will correspond with $54 billion in increases to defense spending.
Trump's frequent trips to Florida will likely end soon. Businesses in Palm Beach County have been told to expect the president to visit through May, but that Trump will likely stop visiting after that because the weather in the area begins to get stiflingly hot.
Instead, many expect Trump will then start making frequent trips to his penthouse apartment at Trump Tower in New York City -- where first lady Melania Trump has been living for the first part of 2017 as their son, Baron, finishes school -- and his private Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster Township, New Jersey.
Trump is said to be particularly fond of his New Jersey property. Ivanka Trump was married there, and Trump used the country club as president-elect to put together his government after winning November's election. In a sign of his love for the club, Trump has expressed a desire to be buried on the property.
But as much as the trips are a budget problem for Trump, they are also a public relations issue.
The president was an outspoken critic of Obama's travel, routinely slamming his predecessor on Twitter for his holiday trips home to Hawaii.
"The habitual vacationer, @BarackObama, is now in Hawaii. This vacation is costing taxpayers $4 milion +++ while there is 20% unemployment," Trump tweeted in 2011 with an incorrect unemployment figure.
Trump later tweeted: "President @BarackObama's vacation is costing taxpayers millions of dollars——Unbelievable!"
High costs of security and travel
Despite these comments, Trump and his family have proven to be an expensive first family to protect.
Not only does Trump travel frequently, but New York City officials have said it costs between $127,000 to $146,000 a day to protect first lady Melania Trump when she is in New York and the president is not there.
Trump has yet to visit New York as president.
The extensive needs of the Trump family have put strains staffing on the Secret Service, too.
Dozens of agents from field offices across the country, including New York, have been temporarily pulled off their normal criminal investigation duties to work two-week rotations protecting members of the large Trump family, Secret Service officials told CNN.
Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said earlier this month that the Department of Homeland Security will ask for additional funding to protect Trump.
"They need a lot more agents, not just because of the Trump era, although that is additional because he has a lot of children and grandchildren," Kelly told senators on the Homeland Security Committee. "We need more agents and we need more uniformed personnel."
Kelly also acknowledged the strain the Secret Service is under.
"We need a larger Secret Service," Kelly said, "because we need to get some of these people a little bit of time at home with their families."
- Randall Flagg
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Re: US Politics Thread
PaSnow wrote:Circa 2013.
https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/375071259643879425
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Now that's rich.
Republicans don't believe in anything. Zero. Zilch.
Hahahaha. Coming from you, the guy who lacked any conviction for 8 years and now bellows at the wind. You're a funny guy! And yes, I mean a clown.
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The Secret Service is getting absurd. Eric & Donald Jr should not be accepting it (it's optional for adult offspring). And Melania should not receive it after June if she 'voluntarily' chooses to stay in NYC. My guess is she spends about 1 week & 1 weekend a month in DC.
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slcpunk wrote:PaSnow wrote:Circa 2013.
https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/375071259643879425
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Now that's rich.
Republicans don't believe in anything. Zero. Zilch.
Hahahaha. Coming from you, the guy who lacked any conviction for 8 years and now bellows at the wind. You're a funny guy! And yes, I mean a clown.
Did buzz hack your account RF?
Aren't you the one a few months ago who said shut the fuck up Democrats the adults are working now?
We've got different definitions of adult.
- Randall Flagg
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Re: US Politics Thread
Randall Flagg wrote:slcpunk wrote:[/embed]
Now that's rich.
Republicans don't believe in anything. Zero. Zilch.
Hahahaha. Coming from you, the guy who lacked any conviction for 8 years and now bellows at the wind. You're a funny guy! And yes, I mean a clown.
Did buzz hack your account RF?
Aren't you the one a few months ago who said shut the fuck up Democrats the adults are working now?
We've got different definitions of adult.
No, the adults know that Biden argued for not voting on Bush 1s SCOTUS nominee. Adults know that Democrats crosssed the line and used the nuclear option. Adults know Republicans used every option at their disposal to slow Obama's agenda. Adults know Hillary campaigned on doing a hell of a lot more to Syria than Trump. Adults know Obama cited the same authority Trump is for his actions in Syria.
In short, adults know that both parties say whatever is in their interest at any particular moment.
But adults don't scream about rape for 8 years and then go silent when their favorite uncle rapes someone. So SLC attacking anyone's convictions is laugh out loud hysterical.
