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- Randall Flagg
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Lmao Trump comes into office with a 37 percent approval rating...it'll be fun to watch him dispell the validity of these polls until they are in his favor....
God damn SG and RF...I do not know what you see in this flake....
Obamas approval rating is at 55 percent. And he's the worst president of our era? And Trump is already the anointed one.
It's more likely to get worse for Trump than better in the near future. Especially if he pulls the plug on Obamacare (not to be confused with the Affordable Care Act as some Trump voters believe) and the economy gushes jobs at least temporarily.
I'm not saying the guy will be amazing. But as a Republican, the Rockefeller kind, I'm optimistic that we have a Republican control of all branches of government. I didn't want to go down this road, I wanted people to work across the aisle. I appreciated the professionalism that used to exist in politics. Sure, there are a million examples of heated exchanges, but at the end of the day Democrat or Republican, you shook hands and knew the other guy was still fighting for the best interest of America. Booker is going to testify against Sessions? Are you kidding me? What can he possibly add to the debate other than getting his name out there. The DNC is about to elect a member of the Nation of Islam who repeatedly defended Farakhan in the 90s, but Session is the racist because he allegedly called a black intern a "boy." I didn't watch the confirmation hearing as I was at work all day, but from media reports on both sides it seems to have been rather professional. Asking him if he plans to support the law of the land regardless of his opinion is a valid question. Asking if he'll go after Clinton is a valid question. Booker getting press to boost his image and profile for a 2020 run isn't.
Obama isn't a horrible person. I rather like him on a personal level. He's incredibly intelligent and approachable. But I don't believe his first priority was always what's right or what's best for America. I'm in no uncertain terms saying he wanted to harm America. But I believe he's made some decisions that have or will harm America in the long term. His handling of the Middle East, Russia, China and his Dream Act nonsense are the biggest. But don't think for a minute his approval ratings are based solely on his performance. He was obviously popular, but he's taken a back seat the past 10 months while Clinton and Trump went nuclear on each other. W is a hell of a lot more popular now than he was in January 2009. Being out of the spotlight tends to have that effect.
Trump isn't even in office yet, but look what impact he's had on the GOP. HE stopped them from fucking with the OCE. HE stopped them from just repealing Obamacare and now Ryan has agreed to replace and repeal at the same time. That's smart. He wants to keep the pre-existing condition requirements. He doesn't want to kick the 20 million people who use the exchange. And while no exact plan is in front of us, he also wants to open competition across state lines, something for the life of me I can't understand why the Democrats oppose.
All I'm saying is that he's in a position to do great good for this country. The Bernie crowd was never going to be happy with Hillary. She was always a moderate and policy wonk, and with the GOP controlling both houses, she would have worked with them to get legislation through that Bernie types would have decried as treason. She was never even going to attempt to get a $15 minimum wage or free college for all. It's not going to happen, ever.
So maybe the Republicans get through some much needed reform to our tax code. Maybe they tighten up the immigration system so we don't have illegals jamming up our public school systems and draining out tax dollars. Maybe we can work with democrats to fix education in this country. Everyone wants to talk about how Europe has free education, but they always leave out the part about how in Europe if you're stupid or need 4 assistants to complete a basic math test, you're not in the same class room or even studying the same material as everyone else. University should be for intelligent people who have proven they're willing to crack open a book and are able to translate that to paper. We need people in STEM fields, not more sociology majors who leave college 100k in debt and can only find a 25k a year job.
I see this as an overall net positive. Now the left will be forced to argue their points and opinions rather than just decreeing it so. Being the minority forces you to take a step back and really think about what you're going to say, since you have to convince the majority of your opinion. If the GOP fucks up and goes down the tea party/Jesus path (which with Ryan and Trump, I don't think so), they'll get hammered in 2018 and Trump will be remembered as the great American gaffe by January 2021.
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It's more likely to get worse for Trump than better in the near future. Especially if he pulls the plug on Obamacare (not to be confused with the Affordable Care Act as some Trump voters believe) and the economy gushes jobs at least temporarily.
Cutting the ACA would cost millions of jobs associated with the health care industry, more than likely pull down health care stocks, pound some the states worse than others and obviously cause people to lose their insurance. It could very well kick off a recession. The Congressional Budget office has also said that repealing it would add billions to the deficit and increase the national debt. That's probably why the GOP on a party line vote prohibited the CBO from looking at any bill that repeals Obamacare. It would also explain why they just voted (except Rand Paul) to "Consider a measure" for a national debt limit increase of 9 trillion...they know that repealing the ACA will stack on the debt, just as cutting taxes will.
- Randall Flagg
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Millions of jobs eh? So millions of jobs were created in healthcare since 2010? How much debt did passing it add? How many people LOST their insurance? How many are paying more, prohibitively so, because of it?
Do these Americans not count?
How many Americans are uninsured today, after we were given the ultimate fix that would ensure the 30 million without insurance in 2009?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/33 … insurance/
That number says more people are uninsured after the ACA than before. But hey, who needs numbers when we can match out sad stories for the camera.
Then again Meryl Streep is the hero of the day for bashing Trump. No one minds when she gave a standing ovation for a child rapist. Fickle crowd this one.
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Depends. Do you want me to report what right wing hack job sites tell you guys all day and is repeated ad nauseum by users on facebook, twitter etc. ?
Or would you like facts and figures reported by the CBO, economists, health care industry leaders and the AHA?
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Looks like both President Obama and PE Trump have been briefed by intelligence officials on Russia's personal information they have on Trump. Sources are not only claiming Trump has deep ties to Russia, but that Russia also has "compromising" information on him, including but not limited to sex acts. While this isn't verified yet, the FBI/CIA hasn't publicly confirmed or denied what is accurate in this memo, they took it seriously enough to present it to both Obama and Trump.
Shit is getting weird.
Read memo here:
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
Re: US Politics Thread
Depends. Do you want me to report what right wing hack job sites tell you guys all day and is repeated ad nauseum by users on facebook, twitter etc. ?
Or would you like facts and figures reported by the CBO, economists, health care industry leaders and the AHA?
I forgot Krugman was the only one with an opinion.
If you can show one right wing hack job site I've linked in the past 3 months as a source of truth, I'll PayPal you $50. If not, you paypal me $50. Deal?
Edit:
A quick google shows only left wing sites claiming that "3 million job" figure.
Here's a good read though:
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I wouldn't be surprised if Trump signs the repeal during his helicopter ride to the White House.
I read that article....almost 2 years old but basically it says repealing Obamacare is the right thing to do because it will actually decrease the deficit by eliminating people who don't deserve health Insurance
- Smoking Guns
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Obama is a fantastic orator. Smooth cat. May be his best quality...
- Randall Flagg
- Rep: 139
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Trumps embracing anti-Vaxers in his health department- another savy and brilliant move.
I read they disputed Kennedy's claims.
