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polluxlm
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polluxlm wrote:

He has, but that's Trump. His flaws is part of why people like him. Makes him credible.

TheMole
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TheMole wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Pollux, you can't fix stupid. Most people would agree the cast was in the wrong. And I will agree Trump has overreacted a bit.

Have you actually seen the clip of the cast addressing Pence and Trump? How could they be in the wrong, they were polite as hell?

TheMole
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TheMole wrote:
polluxlm wrote:
TheMole wrote:

What I don't understand is why those who voted for Trump because he's a so-called truth speaker that is going to end political correctness overnight aren't up in arms about his recent tweets. He's now literally saying the opposite of what made y'all vote for him, but somehow that's ok now? He literally demanded a safe space for him and his ilk! You know... that thing that far-left liberal bullshit spreaders claim we should have at universities that you guys have been lamenting about (rightfully, I might add).

Now, I say "those who voted for Trump", but as far as I can tell that's actually only SG? Instead of avoiding the issue by calling Axl a redneck (he's not the president-elect, so who gives a flying fuck), address what you think about Trump's most recent 180.

Going to a theater without being called out from the stage has little to do with political correctness. That's just common decency.

Demanding your opinions don't get challenged at a place of learning on the other hand.

Really? The whole point of art is to challenge the status quo, challenge the ruling class. If you take that away, all you have left is bland entertainment (which admittedly also has it's role and place in society). Censoring art is the hallmark of an authoritarian regime, it is the very definition of enforcing political correctness.
Art and education should be two sides of the same coin as far as freedom of expression is concerned. Neither should be shackled by political correctness. At least be consistent in your disdain for political correctness.

TheMole
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TheMole wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Some of those pics above are fake as FUCK to try to divide this country. I bet 50% are fakes.

I'm not sure I have a good argument as to why, perhaps I'm just naively hoping that most them are fake, but I'm inclined to agree with you on this. I sincerely hope a good deal of those are just ill-advised posers on twitter trying to get a bunch of retweets.

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:
TheMole wrote:
polluxlm wrote:
TheMole wrote:

What I don't understand is why those who voted for Trump because he's a so-called truth speaker that is going to end political correctness overnight aren't up in arms about his recent tweets. He's now literally saying the opposite of what made y'all vote for him, but somehow that's ok now? He literally demanded a safe space for him and his ilk! You know... that thing that far-left liberal bullshit spreaders claim we should have at universities that you guys have been lamenting about (rightfully, I might add).

Now, I say "those who voted for Trump", but as far as I can tell that's actually only SG? Instead of avoiding the issue by calling Axl a redneck (he's not the president-elect, so who gives a flying fuck), address what you think about Trump's most recent 180.

Going to a theater without being called out from the stage has little to do with political correctness. That's just common decency.

Demanding your opinions don't get challenged at a place of learning on the other hand.

Really? The whole point of art is to challenge the status quo, challenge the ruling class. If you take that away, all you have left is bland entertainment (which admittedly also has it's role and place in society). Censoring art is the hallmark of an authoritarian regime, it is the very definition of enforcing political correctness.
Art and education should be two sides of the same coin as far as freedom of expression is concerned. Neither should be shackled by political correctness. At least be consistent in your disdain for political correctness.

You are correct that art is there to challenge. But they singled out a pretty decent man that personally hasn't done anything wrong yet just because he isn't part of the team THEY voted for. Like I said, would they give that same lecture to Obama?  Most would say Pence a decent man and that is proven by his classy reaction. Just because he was classy doesn't mean what they did was.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:
TheMole wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Some of those pics above are fake as FUCK to try to divide this country. I bet 50% are fakes.

I'm not sure I have a good argument as to why, perhaps I'm just naively hoping that most them are fake, but I'm inclined to agree with you on this. I sincerely hope a good deal of those are just ill-advised posers on twitter trying to get a bunch of retweets.

Most of them were verified by reputable news sources, eyewitnesses, or video. I did consider some could be fake, but there's no doubt it's happening.

Our reporters have witnesses several that we didn't write about in our newspaper.

In one instance, a Trump supporter spit on our reporter outside Trump Tower in Chicago. We chose not to report it.

buzzsaw
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buzzsaw wrote:

In this world of social media, the fringes get all of the attention. Nobody is retweeting the 95% or more of good stuff. The ridiculous gets the attention and people start to assume that's the norm.  Shit grows because we allow it to grow.

polluxlm
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polluxlm wrote:
TheMole wrote:

Really? The whole point of art is to challenge the status quo, challenge the ruling class. If you take that away, all you have left is bland entertainment (which admittedly also has it's role and place in society). Censoring art is the hallmark of an authoritarian regime, it is the very definition of enforcing political correctness.
Art and education should be two sides of the same coin as far as freedom of expression is concerned. Neither should be shackled by political correctness. At least be consistent in your disdain for political correctness.

The play is art, not his statement. And nobody is suggesting he is not allowed to do it, he's just being called out for being an ass.

Well, it's a good thing you mention it, because apart from greed, little has done more to hurt artistic expression than the leftist censorship campaign. Film makers and producers are now afraid to talk about certain things, in this society where freedom of speech is supposed to be one of the main virtues. Many countries have outright criminalized it. The UK in particular are throwing people in jail for all sorts of silliness. One town made it a hate crime to approach women.

That shit is exactly why Trump is President.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:

After all the talk about email servers and exposing classified info, Trump is having conversations on unsecured Trump Tower phones, his own cell phone and world leaders are calling the Trump Tower switchboard and talking to secretaries.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat … ld-leaders

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t … SKBN13B1UR

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/politics/ … ers-calls/

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:
bigbri wrote:

After all the talk about email servers and exposing classified info, Trump is having conversations on unsecured Trump Tower phones, his own cell phone and world leaders are calling the Trump Tower switchboard and talking to secretaries.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat … ld-leaders

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t … SKBN13B1UR

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/politics/ … ers-calls/

I would assume they have better security than the server in the bathroom. Haha

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