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buzzsaw
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buzzsaw wrote:

The more I see for the Libertarian party, the more I realize they aren't an option either.  Not sure what happened there...

Any other third parties worth a look or should I just skip voting this year?

misterID
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misterID wrote:

Yeah, I view libertarians the way I do socialists. I'm far too pragmatic and anti rigid ideology for that shit. We should start our own political party.

mitchejw wrote:
misterID wrote:

Btw, BLM has been completely co-opted by spoiled, privileged white kids. The NAACP has now turned on the protesters for appropriating black causes/issues for their own means... But the media continues to justify and protect them. Where does this go?

Btw, how can you criticize one group not social distancing, but praise another? Does covid really care?

And why hasn't Joe condemned the violence? They just found a body burned to death in a building burnt in protests.

...And protesters would have fit pretty perfectly with the confederacy, so there's some irony there.

I'm going to guess that Joe doesn't have to address this...this is all happening on Trump's watch. It does him little favor to address it.

I still think there is way too much blending of all the groups involved here. A group called antifa are the bad guys according to conservatives and there are plenty of reports of white supremacists continue to try and fuel the flames.

What I've never liked about antifa is it's a VERY broad term describing anyone who disagrees with Trump and the current iteration of the Republican Party. I've never really liked the term and try not to use it.

I applaud anyone who has taken the term BLM to included socioeconomic ones. That may not what was originally intended...but it is at the root of racial injustice in this country.

Even when the north 'freed' the slaves...they only did it for economic reasons. Not necessarily for moral reasons. Paying someone minimum wages and telling them to go figure it out and be back the next day to do it all over again is really no freedom at all.

Antifa existed before Trump and they're taking full advantage of our current unrest. They and White Supremacists are really the same small minded people with massive inferiority complexes with a deep need for attention. The politics don't really matter, just be personal power trip. Violence gives them a sense of power, they just need an excuse for it. We shouldn't excuse them because their fake political views sort of reflects our own or our own dissatisfaction with a certain political group.

Randall Flagg
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I was a staunch libertarian in my 20s.  Then I realized allowing people to die on the streets due to lack of healthcare and food isn't productive to a civilized society.  I respect and agree with the push for individual agency and accountability, but all that goes out the window when an angry mob is outside your door.  Their presence is a reaction to those on the far left that want regulation and involvement in every aspect of human life.

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-w … story.html

I’m not sure if this was in question by anyone anymore. In case it was I thought I would share this.

mitchejw
 Rep: 131 

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mitchejw wrote:

Doesn’t Trumps moving forward with DACA removal prove more executive overreach?

Even when the Supreme Court rules..he does whatever the hell he wants....AGAIN

PaSnow
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PaSnow wrote:

Election day is the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. Period.

Can the president change that?


Barr:  I haven't looked into that yet

PaSnow
 Rep: 205 

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PaSnow wrote:

No bro, you ain't lookin into shit. 

Its November 3rd.

mitchejw
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mitchejw wrote:
PaSnow wrote:

No bro, you ain't lookin into shit. 

Its November 3rd.

Yup there is zero...I meant literally zero precedent for this...

And if it happens...why do I not expect it to be a big deal around here?

buzzsaw
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buzzsaw wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Doesn’t Trumps moving forward with DACA removal prove more executive overreach?

Even when the Supreme Court rules..he does whatever the hell he wants....AGAIN

If DACA could be created legally by executive order, it would appear it can be stopped by executive order.  If you think he's overreaching, Obama overreached creating it.

mitchejw
 Rep: 131 

Re: US Politics Thread

mitchejw wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Doesn’t Trumps moving forward with DACA removal prove more executive overreach?

Even when the Supreme Court rules..he does whatever the hell he wants....AGAIN

If DACA could be created legally by executive order, it would appear it can be stopped by executive order.  If you think he's overreaching, Obama overreached creating it.

Then why bother with the Supreme Court?

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