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polluxlm
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

polluxlm wrote:

Bernie Sanders Seizes 3 States, Sweeping Democratic Contests

Senator Bernie Sanders routed Hillary Clinton in all three Democratic presidential contests on Saturday, infusing his underdog campaign with critical momentum and bolstering his argument that the race for the nomination is not a foregone conclusion.

Mr. Sanders found a welcome tableau in the largely white and liberal electorates of the Pacific Northwest, where just days after resoundingly beating Mrs. Clinton in Idaho he repeated the feat in the Washington caucuses, winning 73 percent of the vote. He did even better in Alaska, winning 82 percent of the vote, and in Hawaii, he had 71 percent with a few precincts still be counted, according to The Associated Press.

Washington, the largest prize Saturday with 101 delegates in play, was a vital state for Mr. Sanders, whose prospects of capturing the nomination dimmed after double-digit losses to Mrs. Clinton across the South and weak showings in delegate-rich Ohio, Florida and North Carolina this month. As of Saturday evening, Mrs. Clinton had roughly 280 more pledged delegates, who are awarded based on voting, and 440 more superdelegates — party leaders and elected officials — than Mr. Sanders.

At a rally in Madison, Wis., late Saturday afternoon, Mr. Sanders assured supporters that his victories had cleared a viable path to the nomination. “We knew from day one that politically we were going to have a hard time in the Deep South,” Mr. Sanders said. “But we knew things were going to improve when we headed west.”

Noting the “huge” voter turnout — in Washington, party officials estimated more than 200,000 people participated on Saturday, close to the record set in 2008 — he told the crowd, “We are making significant inroads into Secretary Clinton’s lead.”

The victories on Saturday only slightly narrowed the gulf with Mrs. Clinton in the quest for the 2,382 delegates needed to clinch the Democratic nomination.

But the wins are likely to bestow on the Sanders campaign a surge of online donations with which to buy advertising in the expensive media markets of New York and Pennsylvania, which hold primaries next month. The victory will also embolden Mr. Sanders to stay in the race and continue challenging Mrs. Clinton on her ties to Wall Street and her foreign policy record.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/27/us/po … .html?_r=0

Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

AtariLegend wrote:

I thought Sanders was expected to win every result past the last Florida/Ohio Tuesday until New York when they expected Hillary to start winning again.

polluxlm
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

polluxlm wrote:

He is, but it's still nice to make a splash. They think it will be decided in New York. His performance here could give him a little momentum towards that.

If Trump nails the nomination, the super delegates might consider Sanders a stronger opponent and shift their allegiance. That is probably his only shot though, as Hillary is on a clear road to majority.

Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:

Sanders is very likeable. Even if you disagree he is hard to dislike.

bigbri
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

bigbri wrote:
polluxlm wrote:

If Trump nails the nomination, the super delegates might consider Sanders a stronger opponent and shift their allegiance. That is probably his only shot though, as Hillary is on a clear road to majority.

I expect recent polls have quieted the fears of Trump. He literally leads Clinton and/or Sanders in ZERO state and/or national polls.

You can find them all here. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Just glance to the right to find names in red or blue. That tells you who's leading. Don't see Trump.

misterID
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misterID wrote:

New York Times writing a pro Sanders article. shocked.

Bernie would not fair well in a GE.

bigbri
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bigbri wrote:

Donald Trump's trade war could kill millions of U.S. jobs

"An economic model of Trump's proposals, prepared by Moody's Analytics at the request of The Washington Post, suggests Trump is half-right about his plans. They would, in fact, sock it to China and Mexico. Both would fall into recession, the model suggests, if Trump levied his proposed tariffs and those countries retaliated with tariffs of their own.

Unfortunately, the United States would fall into recession, too. Up to 4 million American workers would lose their jobs. Another 3 million jobs would not be created that otherwise would have been, had the country not fallen into a trade-induced downturn."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won … -u-s-jobs/

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"Within a year, the model predicts, the U.S. economy is in recession. “This is a pretty ugly scenario," Zandi said, "one that I think any rational person would want to avoid.”

Gary Clyde Hufbauer, a senior fellow at Peterson, said it's difficult to predict what effects such a tariffs might bring, because the United States has not attempted to impose anything comparable in recent history. But he said he believes the Moody's forecasts are in "the realm of plausibility. My own view is that the shock would be a tsunami in the world economy.”

Smoking Guns
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

Smoking Guns wrote:
bigbri wrote:

Donald Trump's trade war could kill millions of U.S. jobs

"An economic model of Trump's proposals, prepared by Moody's Analytics at the request of The Washington Post, suggests Trump is half-right about his plans. They would, in fact, sock it to China and Mexico. Both would fall into recession, the model suggests, if Trump levied his proposed tariffs and those countries retaliated with tariffs of their own.

Unfortunately, the United States would fall into recession, too. Up to 4 million American workers would lose their jobs. Another 3 million jobs would not be created that otherwise would have been, had the country not fallen into a trade-induced downturn."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won … -u-s-jobs/

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/ … jpg&w=1484

"Within a year, the model predicts, the U.S. economy is in recession. “This is a pretty ugly scenario," Zandi said, "one that I think any rational person would want to avoid.”

Gary Clyde Hufbauer, a senior fellow at Peterson, said it's difficult to predict what effects such a tariffs might bring, because the United States has not attempted to impose anything comparable in recent history. But he said he believes the Moody's forecasts are in "the realm of plausibility. My own view is that the shock would be a tsunami in the world economy.”

Do a chart like this on pre Democratic housing initiatives and post.  The housing crisis killed more jobs than Trump could ever try kill.  We still have not recovered from that and some how Barney Frank walked away unscathed by that...

bigbri
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

bigbri wrote:

Sorry, don't have that chart on hand. Feel free to add.


In the meantime, Kasich dropping out?


Smoking Guns
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread

Smoking Guns wrote:
bigbri wrote:

Sorry, don't have that chart on hand. Feel free to add.


In the meantime, Kasich dropping out?


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