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- Smoking Guns
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Smoking Guns wrote:misterID wrote:But that's not a very big demographic, either...
You can't keep moving the goal posts all you want ID, it doesn't mean what Trump is doing isn't remarkable.
Your savior, Hilary, is winning for one reason only. BLACK PEOPLE. She is appealing to them and that is the only reason. She is using her "race" relations and parlaying the Obama doctrine to win this race because she can't even beat a socialist straight up. Without the Black Lives Matter pro Hilary movement, she would be fucked. But when 95% of all democrats in South Carolina are black and she averages 80% + in black communities it very clear to see.
With whites you have reps and DEMS. With blacks it is almost all DEMS, except with Trump. Trump is too attracting some democratic blacks sick of the bullshit. Sick of the excuses. They know Obama didn't do fuck for them so some are willing to give Trump a chance.
You're being petty and silly now
Hillary is not my savior, and I do not go on about her like some of you guys do about Trump. I didn't move the goal post, but saying he's doing great with minorities is disingenuous when you take it within its context.
And how is it a bad thing she has supports of "BLACK PEOPLE?" Black Lives Matter are not supporting her, dude, they're protesting her!
Of course there are black republicans, but Hillary has worked with the black community since the sixties when she and Bill were in the south fighting for civil rights. You're acting like she doesn't deserve that support, or dismissing it that it doesn't count?
She also does well with +45 crowds and women, too. Much better than Sanders.
I voted for Kasich not Trump. How many times must I tell you this. I, like Buzz and Pollux, are objective. You are anti trump because you know it is possible he can beat HRC.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
misterID wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:You can't keep moving the goal posts all you want ID, it doesn't mean what Trump is doing isn't remarkable.
Your savior, Hilary, is winning for one reason only. BLACK PEOPLE. She is appealing to them and that is the only reason. She is using her "race" relations and parlaying the Obama doctrine to win this race because she can't even beat a socialist straight up. Without the Black Lives Matter pro Hilary movement, she would be fucked. But when 95% of all democrats in South Carolina are black and she averages 80% + in black communities it very clear to see.
With whites you have reps and DEMS. With blacks it is almost all DEMS, except with Trump. Trump is too attracting some democratic blacks sick of the bullshit. Sick of the excuses. They know Obama didn't do fuck for them so some are willing to give Trump a chance.
You're being petty and silly now
Hillary is not my savior, and I do not go on about her like some of you guys do about Trump. I didn't move the goal post, but saying he's doing great with minorities is disingenuous when you take it within its context.
And how is it a bad thing she has supports of "BLACK PEOPLE?" Black Lives Matter are not supporting her, dude, they're protesting her!
Of course there are black republicans, but Hillary has worked with the black community since the sixties when she and Bill were in the south fighting for civil rights. You're acting like she doesn't deserve that support, or dismissing it that it doesn't count?
She also does well with +45 crowds and women, too. Much better than Sanders.
I voted for Kasich not Trump. How many times must I tell you this. I, like Buzz and Pollux, are objective. You are anti trump because you know it is possible he can beat HRC.
I don't care who you voted for, I go on what you SAY on this forum. And its not being objective when you repeat right wing talking points. I'm not afraid of him beating Hillary, much like my criticism of Bernie, I think he would be a disaster. But I think Sanders actually believes in what he says. If she doesn't get the nom, I'll vote Bloomberg.
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Smoking Guns wrote:misterID wrote:You're being petty and silly now
Hillary is not my savior, and I do not go on about her like some of you guys do about Trump. I didn't move the goal post, but saying he's doing great with minorities is disingenuous when you take it within its context.
And how is it a bad thing she has supports of "BLACK PEOPLE?" Black Lives Matter are not supporting her, dude, they're protesting her!
Of course there are black republicans, but Hillary has worked with the black community since the sixties when she and Bill were in the south fighting for civil rights. You're acting like she doesn't deserve that support, or dismissing it that it doesn't count?
She also does well with +45 crowds and women, too. Much better than Sanders.
I voted for Kasich not Trump. How many times must I tell you this. I, like Buzz and Pollux, are objective. You are anti trump because you know it is possible he can beat HRC.
I don't care who you voted for, I go on what you SAY on this forum. And its not being objective when you repeat right wing talking points. I'm not afraid of him beating Hillary, much like my criticism of Bernie, I think he would be a disaster. But I think Sanders actually believes in what he says. If she doesn't get the nom, I'll vote Bloomberg.
Quote my talking points and we can discuss.
I don't want to deport anybody (Trump does). What else do you have? It's cool, I am white and from Alabama, must be a Trump supporter and hate blacks. Lol...
Bloomberg was a far superior mayor than Deblasio but would be crazy if he had to enter the race. Maybe Biden enters too if we are down to Bloomberg!
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Hillary is not my savior, and I do not go on about her like some of you guys do about Trump. I didn't move the goal post, but saying he's doing great with minorities is disingenuous when you take it within its context.
I agree. That 40% of the Latino vote he got in Nevada is small and misleading, when considering the total number of registered Latino voters in Nevada.
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
misterID wrote:Hillary is not my savior, and I do not go on about her like some of you guys do about Trump. I didn't move the goal post, but saying he's doing great with minorities is disingenuous when you take it within its context.
I agree. That 40% of the Latino vote he got in Nevada is small and misleading, when considering the total number of registered Latino voters in Nevada.
Legal Latinos resent illegals some though too.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
misterID wrote:Smoking Guns wrote:I voted for Kasich not Trump. How many times must I tell you this. I, like Buzz and Pollux, are objective. You are anti trump because you know it is possible he can beat HRC.
I don't care who you voted for, I go on what you SAY on this forum. And its not being objective when you repeat right wing talking points. I'm not afraid of him beating Hillary, much like my criticism of Bernie, I think he would be a disaster. But I think Sanders actually believes in what he says. If she doesn't get the nom, I'll vote Bloomberg.
Quote my talking points and we can discuss.
I don't want to deport anybody (Trump does). What else do you have? It's cool, I am white and from Alabama, must be a Trump supporter and hate blacks. Lol...
Bloomberg was a far superior mayor than Deblasio but would be crazy if he had to enter the race. Maybe Biden enters too if we are down to Bloomberg!
I didn't say anything about you hating blacks. AT ALL. You say you're not a Trump supporter, I believe you. But when you argue and stump for him, that's another thing...
Well, basically everything you say about Obama is from the right wing, verbatim. And falsely accusing Hillary of having the Black Lives Matter support is also from misinformation blogs/faux news sites/radio, just from this discussion.
- Smoking Guns
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Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
Smoking Guns wrote:misterID wrote:I don't care who you voted for, I go on what you SAY on this forum. And its not being objective when you repeat right wing talking points. I'm not afraid of him beating Hillary, much like my criticism of Bernie, I think he would be a disaster. But I think Sanders actually believes in what he says. If she doesn't get the nom, I'll vote Bloomberg.
Quote my talking points and we can discuss.
I don't want to deport anybody (Trump does). What else do you have? It's cool, I am white and from Alabama, must be a Trump supporter and hate blacks. Lol...
Bloomberg was a far superior mayor than Deblasio but would be crazy if he had to enter the race. Maybe Biden enters too if we are down to Bloomberg!
I didn't say anything about you hating blacks. AT ALL. You say you're not a Trump supporter, I believe you. But when you argue and stump for him, that's another thing...
Well, basically everything you say about Obama is from the right wing, verbatim. And falsely accusing Hillary of having the Black Lives Matter support is also from misinformation blogs/faux news sites/radio, just from this discussion.
BLM is pushing Hilary and calling her out but when it comes time to vote they will vote for her over everyone else.
Trump is pretty fucking liberal and not "conservative". He is more liberal than Kasich except on certain issues. I hate Cruz, Rubio is a clown, Trump is crazy, which leaves Kasich. Trump university and shit like that makes me not like him.
I would still vote for him over Hilary and I would vote for Hilary over Bernie and Cruz.
Re: 2016 Presidential Election Thread
I dunno, I think Trump hasn't fully been vetted in the media & public yet. Believe me, he's got skeletons in his closet, both personal and business. Imminent domain is the least of his issues. The bankruptcies, eviction, tennant disputes. That's just him. Bring in Ivanka & Marla his ex-wives and shits gonna hit the fan. Even if they are on his side friends of theirs & people Trump knew back in the day will have stories.
Oh and who wants to take bets now his current wife Melania or whatever has a past. Nude photos coming in 3,2,1.......
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