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Re: Total Guitar Interview with Ron, DJ & Richard

johndivney wrote:

i think BBF meant nobody could be arsed actually organising a meet-up when the chance arose. they just let it slip away, another opportunity wasted. don't think it was quite code for 'axl never showed up' more like 'axl never decreed we'd meet so nobody else bothered either'.

lose hope. you're just wasting your energy.
they don't care.
they don't have any new music.
axl doesn't want the hassle & doesn't have the material.

smoke
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Re: Total Guitar Interview with Ron, DJ & Richard

smoke wrote:

Sad but (likely) true. Is there any other artist that's managed to squander such raw talent that hasn't died prematurely?

monkeychow
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Re: Total Guitar Interview with Ron, DJ & Richard

monkeychow wrote:
Ali wrote:

Maybe I'm more cautious than you, but I'd be extremely wary, especially if it was someone I had a falling out with.

Ali

Firstly...Slash can't have seemed very drunk...as Axl's camp said he didn't appear to be drunk....so they can't have been too afraid of the crazy drunk guy...(or they lied after the fact to try and damage VR futher vindictively?)

Secondly....it's irrelevant that it was night time....as that's day time to Axl....and it's the most likely time he'd be available to talk rather than if you came in the day and we're told he's unavailable because he's sleeping/showering etc.

Thirdly...I find it highly unlikely that Axl's home wouldn't have decent security...so I think they have very limited reason to be cowering in fear of other celebrities.

misterID
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Re: Total Guitar Interview with Ron, DJ & Richard

misterID wrote:
ottosporteman wrote:

Well, on another subject, Bumble did a video podcast recently for a youtube channel and the question on new material was asked.

He replied politely that all GN'R gear for recording and writing was set up at Dj's house but "life got in the way".

Is that a politic way to say Axl didn't show up?

I'm starting to lose hope.

They really don't need Axl to write.

And Axl has material that he should release first, already.

monkeychow
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monkeychow wrote:

I think they do need Axl to write - because it sounded in his recent interview like Axl likes to write to melodies rather than be handed finished guitar instrumentals.

I think if DJ and Bumble drop 8 finished songs on him it might be like with Snakepit. It'd be rockers and probably quite uninspiring....I think Axl needs to be involved early on to get drawn into the song.

Re: Total Guitar Interview with Ron, DJ & Richard

Sky Dog wrote:
Intercourse wrote:

Just ignore then.


no time for the old in-out love, I've just come to read the meter. 16

Ali
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Ali wrote:
monkeychow wrote:
Ali wrote:

Maybe I'm more cautious than you, but I'd be extremely wary, especially if it was someone I had a falling out with.

Ali

Firstly...Slash can't have seemed very drunk...as Axl's camp said he didn't appear to be drunk....so they can't have been too afraid of the crazy drunk guy...(or they lied after the fact to try and damage VR futher vindictively?)

Secondly....it's irrelevant that it was night time....as that's day time to Axl....and it's the most likely time he'd be available to talk rather than if you came in the day and we're told he's unavailable because he's sleeping/showering etc.

Thirdly...I find it highly unlikely that Axl's home wouldn't have decent security...so I think they have very limited reason to be cowering in fear of other celebrities.

1)  I don't know how Slash "seemed", but you can read for yourself in his book that he admits he was drunk.  I just re-read that passage last night, actually.

2)  I understand that maybe that would be the best time to catch a night owl.  But, that doesn't mean that the other people in the house are awake then or that that is a time at which one might be expecting someone to knock on the door or ring the doorbell, etc.  So, it is relevant.

3)  I never said "cowering in fear", but I'd taken off guard by someone I had a falling out with showing up at my door, unannounced at an unusual hour of the day for someone to be stopping by.  I'd be wary of what their intentions were, what was going on and I'd be hesitant to talk to someone under those circumstances.  Perhaps others might be too?

Regardless of the above, I think it's bit towards the ridiculous side to say that it was either show up unannounced on someone's door, at an odd hour, intoxicated or file a lawsuit, as if it's that black and white, and there's no other recourse for getting a response.  I just don't see that at all.  There are phone calls, e-mails, and legal representatives that can used as channels for communication.

Ali

polluxlm
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polluxlm wrote:

Last picture taken of the two of them. Also one of the few real pictures taken of the band.

Maybe I'm just seeing things, but given how things went you can read a lot from this no?

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Axlin16
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Axlin16 wrote:
misterID wrote:
ottosporteman wrote:

Well, on another subject, Bumble did a video podcast recently for a youtube channel and the question on new material was asked.

He replied politely that all GN'R gear for recording and writing was set up at Dj's house but "life got in the way".

Is that a politic way to say Axl didn't show up?

I'm starting to lose hope.

They really don't need Axl to write.

And Axl has material that he should release first, already.


That's pretty much it. Axl's not going to even work that way. He wasn't even working that way with the old band back in like 1990. It pissed Slash off pretty bad, because with AFD they all did it together, but by UYI, Axl wanted all of them to record as a band, then he'd come in and go "yes or no" and make changes. That was in 1990. If it hasn't changed since then, I doubt it will.

The band themselves are just going to have to make an album, or at least work one up and see what happens. Then go, "we've got something here" and take it to Axl. I don't know if Axl's waiting on that or not, but more than likely if Axl has any Axl piano songs (like DJ has alluded to), they have been recorded in demo format for years and are sitting at Axl's house waiting to be finished.

Axl should be blamed for the vault sitting and collecting dust, but the band should be blamed for the lack of their new material. I personally doubt Ron is much of a writer, and i'm not sure Richard is either. No GN'R drummer has ever been a writer. This is gonna come down to getting DJ, Tommy, Dizzy & Chris into the same room, and maybe Richard and seeing what happens. Then call Ron and say, "solo here", "riffage there", call Frank for the fills, and then see if Axl wants to tweak and what he wants to add.


The biggest thing that will slow this down is how much Axl is LYRICALLY writing. The rest is easy.

monkeychow
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Re: Total Guitar Interview with Ron, DJ & Richard

monkeychow wrote:
Ali wrote:

1)  I don't know how Slash "seemed", but you can read for yourself in his book that he admits he was drunk.  I just re-read that passage last night, actually.

Yes...while in Axl's press release it specifically says Slash wasn't drunk.

So it can only be one of three things:

(a) Slash wasn't drunk and is lying about being drunk (presumably to save face for going at all).
(b) Slash was drunk and Axl's press release lies about it. (presumably to add to how VR will feel readingit)
(c) Slash was drunk, but not so drunk that Axl's people noticed, and they're both telling the truth.

In option (a) or (c) then Slash's lack of visible intoxication can't have been threatening. IE: If he wasn't drunk or if it was impossible to tell he was drunk, then clearly he isn't showing up as a drunk guy that needs to be avoided.

The only other choice then is option (b) - so we'd have to accept that Axl lied about it to the press.

So either Axl is lying, or he is telling the truth but the reason Slash wasn't given an audience has nothing to do with if he'd been drinking or not.

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