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Re: 2012 NFL Season
Bro-mero wrote:Obviously the better team doesn't always win, but lets face it, the Packers are better. Your Bears bias is clouding up your unbiased judgement. The general population would agree with me that the Packers are a better team than the Bears. We'll see who has the better record at the end of the year. And when the Packers have a better record than the Bears at the end of the regular season, don't go bitching to the forum and try to justify your precious Bears and their inferior season to the Pack.
End of story
Do they play the same teams the same weeks? Record doesn't mean jack shit as long as it's close and there are certainly reasons teams lose that have nothing to do with talent. The Pack could go 15-1 and I'd still tell you the Bears have more talent, and I'd still be right. As you point out, GB was 10-0 and the Bears were 7-3, yet most in the industry were talking about the Bears playing as good as anybody at that point. That's what you don't get. Sure, some of that was probably just something to talk about, but things change. It's not about records. Ask GB if the NYG's record affected their game with them last year. Ask SF the same question.
I think the issue is Cutler doesn't think he can beat the Pack. That has nothing to do with talent. And I'm not going to waste my time explaining why because it was SOOOOOOOO freaking obvious that they were bet
You have so much to learn about sports that you probably shouldn't even be discussing it at this point.
Some of your statements have me wondering if you know absolutely anything about sports. The 15-1 Packers were better than the 9-7 Bears. There's a reason why the team with the better record makes the playoffs, and in some cases, the more talented team doesn't doesn't have a good record. But in my opinion, the Packers had a more talented team than the Bears, and the Packers still do have a better team.
Re: 2012 NFL Season
buzzsaw wrote:Bro-mero wrote:Obviously the better team doesn't always win, but lets face it, the Packers are better. Your Bears bias is clouding up your unbiased judgement. The general population would agree with me that the Packers are a better team than the Bears. We'll see who has the better record at the end of the year. And when the Packers have a better record than the Bears at the end of the regular season, don't go bitching to the forum and try to justify your precious Bears and their inferior season to the Pack.
End of story
Do they play the same teams the same weeks? Record doesn't mean jack shit as long as it's close and there are certainly reasons teams lose that have nothing to do with talent. The Pack could go 15-1 and I'd still tell you the Bears have more talent, and I'd still be right. As you point out, GB was 10-0 and the Bears were 7-3, yet most in the industry were talking about the Bears playing as good as anybody at that point. That's what you don't get. Sure, some of that was probably just something to talk about, but things change. It's not about records. Ask GB if the NYG's record affected their game with them last year. Ask SF the same question.
I think the issue is Cutler doesn't think he can beat the Pack. That has nothing to do with talent. And I'm not going to waste my time explaining why because it was SOOOOOOOO freaking obvious that they were bet
You have so much to learn about sports that you probably shouldn't even be discussing it at this point.
Some of your statements have me wondering if you know absolutely anything about sports. The 15-1 Packers were better than the 9-7 Bears. There's a reason why the team with the better record makes the playoffs, and in some cases, the more talented team doesn't doesn't have a good record. But in my opinion, the Packers had a more talented team than the Bears, and the Packers still do have a better team.
Had. You are correct.
Re: 2012 NFL Season
Bro-mero wrote:buzzsaw wrote:Do they play the same teams the same weeks? Record doesn't mean jack shit as long as it's close and there are certainly reasons teams lose that have nothing to do with talent. The Pack could go 15-1 and I'd still tell you the Bears have more talent, and I'd still be right. As you point out, GB was 10-0 and the Bears were 7-3, yet most in the industry were talking about the Bears playing as good as anybody at that point. That's what you don't get. Sure, some of that was probably just something to talk about, but things change. It's not about records. Ask GB if the NYG's record affected their game with them last year. Ask SF the same question.
I think the issue is Cutler doesn't think he can beat the Pack. That has nothing to do with talent. And I'm not going to waste my time explaining why because it was SOOOOOOOO freaking obvious that they were bet
You have so much to learn about sports that you probably shouldn't even be discussing it at this point.
Some of your statements have me wondering if you know absolutely anything about sports. The 15-1 Packers were better than the 9-7 Bears. There's a reason why the team with the better record makes the playoffs, and in some cases, the more talented team doesn't doesn't have a good record. But in my opinion, the Packers had a more talented team than the Bears, and the Packers still do have a better team.
Had. You are correct.
At this point it came down to a difference in opinion, so I think its fair to say that we agree to disagree
Re: 2012 NFL Season
A whole lot of arguing for only being 2 weeks into the season. It's nearly impossible to make any full judgements on teams at this point. Let's let things play out a little more before we decide who is better than who.
Otherwise, the 2-0 Arizona Cardinals are clearly better than the 1-1 Patriots. Especially after having beaten them at Gillette. I don't think that's the case, but if you're going to base it off what we've seen so far, you could easily come to that conclusion.
Point is, there's a LONG way to go.
Re: 2012 NFL Season
A whole lot of arguing for only being 2 weeks into the season. It's nearly impossible to make any full judgements on teams at this point. Let's let things play out a little more before we decide who is better than who.
Otherwise, the 2-0 Arizona Cardinals are clearly better than the 1-1 Patriots. Especially after having beaten them at Gillette. I don't think that's the case, but if you're going to base it off what we've seen so far, you could easily come to that conclusion.
Point is, there's a LONG way to go.
Yep - that's why I said I hadn't seen anything yet to change that opinion. All you have to do is look at the fantasy league standings...one 2-0 team, one 0-2 team and everybody else is 1-1. For the first few weeks, teams are learning who they are and what they are, especially given the new practice rules. Makes picking fantasy starters tough until they establish an identity.
Re: 2012 NFL Season
I watch Shango's videos all the time but THIS ONE is absolutely classic. Sums up the frustration Cowboys fans have been feeling for years! Get this guy on the sidelines because this(or a fraction of this:haha: ) is what the Cowboys need. A hardass to old those mother fuckers accountable. Speak the truth Shango 
