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misterID
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Re: Slash on Piers Morgan

misterID wrote:

I will say this, hearing some of Slash's work lately, if Axl had the right song Slash would probably kill it. But it would be a specific type of song. The songs he's brought to his solo records, even for VR for that matter, I don't think I could even put a 12 song tracklist together to make a decent album that Axl would sing on.

Songs I think Axl could kill:

By The Sword
Promise
Gotten
Saint Is A Sinner Too
Parts of Anastasia

That's all I got right now. I might go back and listen to more of that first solo album. Mostly it would probably have to be Axl/Dizzy/Chris/Tommy songs he'd play on.

So, basically, Slash would have to join the new line up 16

Bono
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Re: Slash on Piers Morgan

Bono wrote:
misterID wrote:

You know, it's not just my opinion when CD got good reviews, was voted as one of the best albums of the year and Better voted as one of the best singles of the year by Rollingstone. It's not my opinion that the album sold over 2 million albums. You guys either ignore these facts and make up your own reasons for why it had any level of success along with an * to explain it away. I never said it was hugely popular. Not once. And I've stated that I'm talking about my own personal taste when it comes to the 02 line up. The 90s would not have been kind to GN'R, so I am glad they didn't put anything out, instead of just releasing something no one really had their heart into.

How well Slash plays now, and I'm not disputing that, isn't the same as writing a song. If Slash had someone who wrote the structure for a song and he came along and blew it out, it could be beyond amazing... Depending who that person is.

"For ID or anyone to suggest that if they worked together again it wouldn't work is baseless cause there's nothing to suggest it wouldn't work as far as musical output goes.  When forced to work together they create magic."

Well, the irony here is the last time they were forced to work together they didn't create magic. They created nothing. And the band broke up.

You are hilarious. You take your opinion and then use other's OPINION to state something as a fact. It's like your'e this little kid and because someone wrote somehting in a magazine it must be the be all end all truth. FACT is there are more people who didn't give two shits about CD and then when they did hear it thought "meh" than those who praise it. The world didn't embrace CD the way you claim it did. the radio singles didn't do so well, people didn't care cause it wasn't anything that great. Yes 2 million bought the album. Less than 2 million of those love it. I know people who think the album sucks. Deal with it ID. Nobody is saying NOBODY liked CD. All we're saying is it's not this global success or an iconic album based on the music the way you pretend it is. Nobody gives a shit about CD anymore and you need to acknowledge the fact much of it's success was due to curiosity. To deny this is ignornat. And regardless of what the critics said after it's release it will NEVER be looked at as a classic by either the critics or the masses. Something you're in huge denial about.

And your joke of a statement that the last time they worked together they broke up is just stupid. they didn't do anything together. They all just quit. The last time they actually wrote and recorded together they created the Illusion albums so checkmate buddy.

I'm curious to know how old you are man? Serioulsy. This weird love affair you have with the '02 lineup makes me think they were your first introduction to Gn'R and there was probably a time when you thought they were the ones who made AFD. You seriously act as though the '02 lineup is the definitive Guns N' Roses.

The World would not have been kind to Gn'R in the 90's? Seriously dude get real. Had Gn'R released kickass rock record in 1996 the world would've ate it up and loved it. Badass rock never dies and I hate to break it to ya but YES it would've gone over well.

And please don't make me or anyone else clarify what "nobody liked or cares about CD" means again.  You can't really be that dense to continueally take that  phrase  so  literally. STOP IT.

Bono
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Re: Slash on Piers Morgan

Bono wrote:
misterID wrote:

I will say this, hearing some of Slash's work lately, if Axl had the right song Slash would probably kill it. But it would be a specific type of song. The songs he's brought to his solo records, even for VR for that matter, I don't think I could even put a 12 song tracklist together to make a decent album that Axl would sing on.

Songs I think Axl could kill:

By The Sword
Promise
Gotten
Saint Is A Sinner Too
Parts of Anastasia

That's all I got right now. I might go back and listen to more of that first solo album. Mostly it would probably have to be Axl/Dizzy/Chris/Tommy songs he'd play on.

So, basically, Slash would have to join the new line up 16

Seriously? Messages, Slither, FTP, Sucker Train Blues, Do it For the Kids, Watch This, You're a Lie, Anastasia, Dirty Little Thing etc etc. Axl could sing on anything Slash has done and it's be awesome  Slash could play anything on CD and turn it from average to awesome. it's just how they play off each other.

Gibbo
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Re: Slash on Piers Morgan

Gibbo wrote:
misterID wrote:

I will say this, hearing some of Slash's work lately, if Axl had the right song Slash would probably kill it. But it would be a specific type of song. The songs he's brought to his solo records, even for VR for that matter, I don't think I could even put a 12 song tracklist together to make a decent album that Axl would sing on.

Songs I think Axl could kill:

By The Sword
Promise
Gotten
Saint Is A Sinner Too
Parts of Anastasia

That's all I got right now. I might go back and listen to more of that first solo album. Mostly it would probably have to be Axl/Dizzy/Chris/Tommy songs he'd play on.

So, basically, Slash would have to join the new line up 16

Slash has put out 6 albums to axl 1 and prob last  14 14 14

Gibbo
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Re: Slash on Piers Morgan

Gibbo wrote:
Bono wrote:
misterID wrote:

I will say this, hearing some of Slash's work lately, if Axl had the right song Slash would probably kill it. But it would be a specific type of song. The songs he's brought to his solo records, even for VR for that matter, I don't think I could even put a 12 song tracklist together to make a decent album that Axl would sing on.

Songs I think Axl could kill:

By The Sword
Promise
Gotten
Saint Is A Sinner Too
Parts of Anastasia

That's all I got right now. I might go back and listen to more of that first solo album. Mostly it would probably have to be Axl/Dizzy/Chris/Tommy songs he'd play on.

So, basically, Slash would have to join the new line up 16

Seriously? Messages, Slither, FTP, Sucker Train Blues, Do it For the Kids, Watch This, You're a Lie, Anastasia, Dirty Little Thing etc etc. Axl could sing on anything Slash has done and it's be awesome  Slash could play anything on CD and turn it from average to awesome. it's just how they play off each other.

your wasting your time bono

misterID
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Re: Slash on Piers Morgan

misterID wrote:

I'm seriously not trying to start a fight here, bono, but you keep making shit up. I never said it was a "global success or an iconic album based on the music the way you pretend it is." Uh, the post you quoted me said I didn't think it was anything close to that. You should really read things before you attack them.

Making things up to make your point makes you look really bad, dude.

And talk about stating opinions as facts:

Bono wrote:

FACT is there are more people who didn't give two shits about CD and then when they did hear it thought "meh" than those who praise it... Nobody gives a shit about CD anymore...Yes 2 million bought the album. Less than 2 million of those love it.

See, this is called conjecture that you're pushing as fact. I have no problem with your opinion, bono, but that's exactly what it is. I stated the album was critically well reviewed, which is a fact. You dismissed that. I stated the album and the single Better were voted one of best of the years in different categories (in more than one publication, btw), and that was a fact. You dismissed it. I stated the album sold 2 million copies, and you dismissed it with a very weak argument about why it really didn't count... Those were not my opinions. You're the one reading minds here, dude. Not me.

It's my opinion the original line up had nothing left in it. I can freely admit that's my opinion not a fact. 

Bono wrote:

And your joke of a statement that the last time they worked together they broke up is just stupid. they didn't do anything together. They all just quit. The last time they actually wrote and recorded together they created the Illusion albums so checkmate buddy.

And.... you just proved my point again. The last time they worked together to make music was in 1996. Again, during 1994 and 1996 they were working together and writing, even bringing in outside musicians to try and help "inspire" them, including Izzy, and they produced nothing, let alone anything magical. And they broke up. Oh, and fyi, the last time they recorded anything was "Sympathy For The Devil" and they didn't all just quit, they quit one at a time. So yes, they were working, and yes, they were writing, but no, just nothing magical.

Bono wrote:

I'm curious to know how old you are man? Serioulsy. This weird love affair you have with the '02 lineup makes me think they were your first introduction to Gn'R and there was probably a time when you thought they were the ones who made AFD. You seriously act as though the '02 lineup is the definitive Guns N' Roses.

I'm 33. Saw the night WTTJ premiered on MTV. Stole my sisters copy of AFD because my parents wouldn't get it for me. Bought UYI and TSI? the days they came out. Hated hair metal and cock rock, but was a big alt rock fan. I know who recorded AFD. I've never said the 02 line up was the definitive, but it was my favorite, outside the original.

I've stated many times I was more an Axl fan than Slash fan and the 02 line up appealed to me. There you have it.

Now, have you ever had counseling over your anger problems and inability to handle differing opinions?

Bono wrote:

The World would not have been kind to Gn'R in the 90's? Seriously dude get real. Had Gn'R released kickass rock record in 1996 the world would've ate it up and loved it. Badass rock never dies and I hate to break it to ya but YES it would've gone over well.

I appreciate and understand your love for that line up and period of time. I really do. Along with the other guys here. But, for that to have happened they would have had to release a kick ass album. Again, I don't see any proof that was happening or else they would have released one. That would be nice if they had that album in them, and if they do get back together one day I hope they can. And it's nice to dream about what ifs, like the 02 line ups potential, but at the end of the day, there was no kick ass "original line up" album left in the tank, from what I can tell, the inspiration was gone and they just didn't want to work with each other, just like there was no future for the 02 line up. You just have to move on, like i did. Bucket ain't coming back.

-D-
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-D- wrote:

I seriously face palm people who claim a GNR album wouldnt have done well. Especially seeing as u never heard it. I know that works both ways but if bon jovi metallica and aerosmith still thrived during grunge and nu metal, im sure GNR woulda been fine. Some bands are bulletproof and GNR woulda been just that

Plus people always conveniently leave out the fact CD sold alot of albums on name recognition and curiosity factor. Album isa third great a third good and a third bad.

Smoking Guns
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Re: Slash on Piers Morgan

Smoking Guns wrote:

Mr ID, love you bro, but CD was an epic fail in the US. Maybe in Europe and South America on the festival circuit.  Of the 2 million sold, 1.5 million was because of the name alone. Released as Axl Rose it may have sold 500,000. Slash actually promotes the fuck out of his shit and with no major label, sold a bunch of albums as a solo guy. CD has some good moments, but most of my friends dig the first Slash solo album more than CD. That is my observation. In the end, CD in the USA (guns homeland) is a total joke.

buzzsaw
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Re: Slash on Piers Morgan

buzzsaw wrote:
misterID wrote:

You know, it's not just my opinion when CD got good reviews, was voted as one of the best albums of the year and Better voted as one of the best singles of the year by Rollingstone. It's not my opinion that the album sold over 2 million albums. You guys either ignore these facts and make up your own reasons for why it had any level of success along with an * to explain it away. I never said it was hugely popular. Not once. And I've stated that I'm talking about my own personal taste when it comes to the 02 line up. The 90s would not have been kind to GN'R, so I am glad they didn't put anything out, instead of just releasing something no one really had their heart into.

The fact is that it sold a lot the first 2 weeks and dropped off the face of the earth.  If you don't think that the quality of the music had anything to do with that, it must be nice to live in your little world.  It makes the rest of the discussion irrelevant.  It doesn't matter what Rolling Stone thinks.  It matters what the people that buy music think.  They thought meh.  It doesn't matter what you think either, because nobody is questioning what you think.

Re: Slash on Piers Morgan

Sky Dog wrote:

enough.....it has nothing to do with the "quality" of the music. Popular music is just that...popular. Try reading the definitions of the 2 words. Velvet Underground's first album sold less than CD and is one of the top ten most influential albums of all time. A fuckin awesome record. I don't think CD is anywhere near that but it is a solid album with a very coherent lyric theme. Again, I am not a big fan of the guitars but the keyboard work, lyrics, orchestration, bass and drums are pretty killer. The mess of guitars is the weak link. Just my 2.

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