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Re: Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame
misterID wrote:They did not quit at the same time. Not true, dude. Duff was okay to carry on without Slash and they were all okay to carry on without Steven and Izzy. Robin was in the band with Duff and Matt.
CD era is part of GN'R, like it or not. I'm not even talking about the HOF. I'm not clamoring for any of the new guys to get in. I really haven't seen anyone on this board do that. You made that up, too.
If it's the original 5, then okay. If they induct the current band, okay too.
Seriously dude stop with the semantics. Saying Robin was in Gn'R with Duff & Matt is a joke. You know as well as anyone that Guns N' Roses went into hiding and then remerged without any of the originals left including Duff and Matt. So in that sense YES they all left at the same time. Nobody stuck around for a new tour, nobody stuck around and recorded a new album. If Duff was ok to carry on then why didn't he? Kind of a flaw in what you're saying isn't there. Guns N' Roses did TSI then somehow managed to record and release Sympathy for the Devil and that was IT. the band ceased to exist as we know it and then remerged 4/5 years later with Axl as the only member left... oh and Dizzy but whatever.
Maybe "clamouring" is the wrong word but "arguing in favor of it" is not. Like I said use my U2 example and you know for a fact you'd think I was fucking crazy if I was suggesting the new era has every right to be inducted
No, it's called facts, bono. Duff and Matt were in the band with Robin. You said they all quit at the same time, which isn't true. It's very clear in the history of GN'R that Slash quit. Duff stuck around. He even wanted to bring in Chris Vrenna from NIN when Matt left. And he left for a lot of reasons, including his health. You're trying rewrite history to prove your opinion. When a guy left they were replaced.
And no one here is "arguing" for the new guys to get in here. The U2 example doesn't fit, because GN'R was never close to being similar with U2, or any other band... bad comparison. Maybe The Cure, with the constant revolving band members from the first album.
I said I'd carry Gilby to the HOF to see Slash and Axl on stage again. I don't care who's inducted, only you seem to.
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Re: Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame
And I doubt the new guys would accept induction, but it would be cool to see Tommy get in. I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Tommy should get in as a member of the Replacements, but definitely not under the name Guns N' Roses. Not when he's openly admitted that he used to mock the band back in their heyday. I say GN'R getting in is a good chance to say "fuck you" to all the haters, whether it's rock critics, the media in general, the PC people who whined about the "insensitive lyrics," and all the idiots who think GN'R is/was hair metal. I would include Tommy in there as well. He didn't understand why so many people loved the classic GN'R music. Fuck him. Has no business being inducted as a GN'R member.
Re: Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame
He's been in the band 14 years, has given big respect to Duff and the music now. I agree that I don't think he would accept it, but again, I wouldn't have a problem with it. And there's no guarantee The Replacements will ever get in. He should get in just based on the bullshit he's put up with. 
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Re: Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame
He's been in the band 14 years, has given big respect to Duff and the music now. I agree that I don't think he would accept it, but again, I wouldn't have a problem with it. And there's no guarantee The Replacements will ever get in. He should get in just based on the bullshit he's put up with.
He got paid a ton of cash to essentially sit on his ass while Axl fiddle-farted around. That supposed joke of a band that he used to make fun of is the reason Axl could afford to pay him a bunch of money to sit on his ass. Ironic. 
Re: Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame
No, it's called facts, bono. Duff and Matt were in the band with Robin. You said they all quit at the same time, which isn't true. It's very clear in the history of GN'R that Slash quit. Duff stuck around. He even wanted to bring in Chris Vrenna from NIN when Matt left. And he left for a lot of reasons, including his health. You're trying rewrite history to prove your opinion. When a guy left they were replaced.
Wow! hilarious how far you're willing to go to not aknowledge the point. How about this MisterID. You're right because had they all left the band at the same time they'd have syncronized their watches and then left together while holding hands. You know damn well what I mean and yes you are clearly using semantics. FACT is Gn'R remerged as a competely different outfit than what the public had seen them as last The last time the public had seen them Duff and Slash were in the band. Rewrite that history however ya want but what I just said is a FACT.
And no one here is "arguing" for the new guys to get in here. The U2 example doesn't fit, because GN'R was never close to being similar with U2, or any other band... bad comparison. Maybe The Cure, with the constant revolving band members from the first album
And nice to see you've chosen to completely ignore what I said. I clearly said had U2's career gone exactly how Gn'R's had gone post 1993.... Not all that hard to figure out what I'm saying. Unless of course you looked at it and agreed, thinking yeah if this scenario existed with U2 or any other band and people thought the new era should get in they'd be crazy, and you just didn't wanna say you agreed with that then fine. But you know exactly what I was saying when I spelled out the U2 example for you.
I said I'd carry Gilby to the HOF to see Slash and Axl on stage again. I don't care who's inducted, only you seem to.
yeah I'm the only one who cares who gets inducted. You're right nobody else cares. 
Who do you think should be inducted MisterID? Who cares if our opinions mean shit. Who do you THINK should get in?
Re: Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame
1 - You're the one not wanting to acknowledge the facts. They carried on without Steven in 1990, then without Izzy 1991, then without Slash 1996. All these guys were replaced when they left, including Duff, who remained in the band until 1997. I'm not the best at math, but leaving over the span of 7 years isn't exactly leaving at the same time. Duff did in fact stay after Slash quit. He was even part of getting Slash's replacement, which would indicate he did have a similar vision in the musical direction as Axl by getting Robin and then personally asking Chris Vrenna to join, from NIN. There were a lot of reasons why Duff left. You're wanting me to ignore what happened between TSI? and when they reemerged in 02. That's kind of impossible.
2 - I didn't ignore what you said about U2. You made a terrible comparison. "It would be like Bono replacing Larry, Adam and The Edge then proceeding to tour once in a while and then replace two more members then finally release one album that nobody cared about all over a 16 year span and then indicuting the the five new members along with the original band members as U2. Aboslute blapshemy."
The make up and dynamic of U2 is completely different than GN'R. But if you want to get hypothetical, if this happened after U2's first 2 albums, I doubt anyone would care. Especially if that album they finally released that nobody cared about, sold over 2 million copies around the world and people were still lining up to see their shows. Again, if the hall wanted to induct only the founding members of those first 2 U2 albums, I don't think anyone would mind. If they included the imaginary new guys with the founding members who'd been in the band for 16 years, I doubt anyone would mind that.
3 - I think the original 5 should be inducted, but if they wanted to include the current line up in the bands induction, fine too. Even though I think that's not really going to happen, they still inducted Metallica as a band. Not the lineup from the Black, Load album era, or any specific line up. But as a band.
Re: Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame
If I was one of the post 93 guys and asked to getup on stage and be inducted under the GNR name I would be embarrassed. That is not meant to take anything away from the guys from Buckethead thru to DJ, they are all talented musicians and have all contributed to the CD era through songwriting and/or touring. But as much as we may like them and CD and what they are currently doing, the CD era has barely made a scratch on the rock n roll landscape. For this reason alone I don't believe any post 93 guns should be inducted.
Re: Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame
Axl Rose
Slash
Izzy Stradlin
Gilby Clarke
Duff McKagan
Steven Adler
Matt Sorum
Dizzy Reed
Everyone who is apart of the band that was actually known, actually sold significant records, and made a significant impact will be inducted, and will be there to perform on some capacity.
Even if Axl is pissed and told to stay the fuck home due to "diva like stomach pains".
There might be a chance they get inducted, then DJ, Ron & Tommy hang around, but they won't actually be inducted.
Anybody thinking anything post-1993 will be up there getting inducted, it's just not gonna happen. Even Tommy Stinson would tell them to fuck the hell off.
I also think that with those names I listed, there's a REAL good chance that Axl & Izzy might blow it off. Real good. Even if Axl's there, Izzy might still tell it to fuck off. He was always the most rock n' roll of the bunch.
Mother fucker should've been in Pearl Jam with his "fuck the industry" attitude.
G N' F' n' R's 2012!!!!
Re: Guns N Roses OFFICIALLY inducted into Rock n Roll Hall of Fame
Oh and another thing, I really really hope they do reunite on some level, even if it's a 5-song jam for one night only.
This is the LAST, (not beginning of the future), this is repeat... THE LAST moment for Guns N' Roses.
Hopefully it'll be something to remember... 
