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- killingvector
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Re: Desoto Civic Center 5th December - CANCELLED
richard fortus?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mftC-Mdj … re=relatedhere we go again with the endless debate...it's really simple. They AGAIN scheduled too many dates in TINY markets...overbooked. The big cities are doing fine and the shows are kicking ass. It's simple economics. The production costs outweigh the gross dollars in these small markets. Poor planning.
For instance, why play the Forum in LA when you can do Universal again like in 2006? My only guess is that they are getting a good deal from the venue/arenas since the NBA was locked out.
I think you are right, but it is not something that can be admitted in public.
Re: Desoto Civic Center 5th December - CANCELLED
Bono wrote:yeah but Neemo lets' be real a few guitar picks, drumsticks some bottles of water and some heart felt, yet standard "thank you good nights" are not things you chalk up as a band establishing themselves and getting new or more fans to the shows or into the music. I'm sure as shit not going to any concert becauseI think the guitar player might throw out a pick, or the drummer might throw a drumstick out or because the singer says Thank You at the end of the night.
Those things do not equal promotion or progress. I mean.... all bands throw out guitar picks and drumsticks and say thank you to the fans.
no but an actual heartfelt "before you all leave we would like to say thank you for coming out and seeing us, we;ve had a really great time and we thankyou very much, it means alot to us" thne handing out stuff to the crowd is different than "Good...fucking night!!!" then a round of shots of tequila amongst the band
it was just weird cuz i've never seen axl close a show like that
Ok but still it's just saying thank you. Most bands do it. And a round of shots amongst the bandmembers at the end isn't establishing themslves as a more legit version of Guns N' Roses in the eyes of the public. It's nice Axl said a heartfelt thank you but I'm not sure what your point is. I was under the assumption we were talking about the band reestablishing the brand as a legit band and the stuff you mentioend doesn't do any of that and will not change the public's perception in any way whasoever. It's standard stuff all bands do.
Sure I can see your point that the attitude on stage seems different but that stuff isn't gonna translate inot more.new/retruning fans.
Re: Desoto Civic Center 5th December - CANCELLED
yeah my comment wasnt meant to legitimze the band as GuNs n Roses or whatever, people are gonna form their own opions of what this band is
my comment was just that Axl's attitude to the fanbase ....he seems more thankful for what he has, more appreciative for the peopel that spent the cash and took the time out of their day and stayed and cheered the band for the night...
just like axl's perception of what hte fanbase means has changed...in previous years it was super late gigs, get on board or fuck off, i dont owe you a god damn thing...this year it was thank you thank you thank you....i could be totally off base of course but yeah he really seemed appreciative...and i know its a norm to say thankyou but this one seemed more genuine ...i cant explain it better
Re: Desoto Civic Center 5th December - CANCELLED
Talking of the public perception, I was at a party on friday night and was talking to a girl about the 06 Glasgow show cause she said she was there. It kind of funny and frustrating at the same time, she was saying it sucked because they came on really late, Axl kept throwing tantrums and storming off the stage and how it wasnt GNR cause it was just him and back up band.
I pointed out how GNR were actually early, they came on at 9.50pm, I told her she was lying about the tantrums cause he did no such thing, he even got soaked as a cup of beer landed at his feet one time and he just kept singing whilst mopping it up with a towel.
She stuttered and stammered, saying "aye well he still shouldnt be calling it Guns N Roses if Slash isnt there.."She was a fucking idiot basically, its like the media have shoved these stories down peoples throats for so many years its become ingrained in peoples mind, it doesnt even matter what these people see with their own eyes, they will still fall back on regurgitating the same old story they've been reading about forever, thinking thats the cool thing to say.
Yeah, that's basically how I see it. People's minds are made up and they're not going to change. No matter what Axl does with this version of GNR. People, for the most part, just won't allow themselves to like it or lend any support to it.
- Mikkamakka
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Re: Desoto Civic Center 5th December - CANCELLED
yeah my comment wasnt meant to legitimze the band as GuNs n Roses or whatever, people are gonna form their own opions of what this band is
my comment was just that Axl's attitude to the fanbase ....he seems more thankful for what he has, more appreciative for the peopel that spent the cash and took the time out of their day and stayed and cheered the band for the night...
just like axl's perception of what hte fanbase means has changed...in previous years it was super late gigs, get on board or fuck off, i dont owe you a god damn thing...this year it was thank you thank you thank you....i could be totally off base of course but yeah he really seemed appreciative...and i know its a norm to say thankyou but this one seemed more genuine ...i cant explain it better
Yeah, I feel the same. Funny that once the victim game stops, everything starts to go to the right direction. I think he should make an album quick in this state of mind.
